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請勿盜取海洋生物/植物回家

ANNO

N佬

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來自: 香港區小島

1 于 2003-07-29 09:45

小弟發覺有部份魚友會從海洋裡拿走生物/植物回家飼養，希望大家停止這種行為並告知你的朋友和家人，不要破壞海洋生態。

小弟沒惡意，只是覺得若果大家想香港的海洋生態得到保護而日益改善，便不要從海裡拿生物/植物回家，可能一個人拿一點點會覺得問題不太，但這種風氣擴展開去，一百人每人拿一些或一千人一萬人每人拿一些便會對海洋做成破壞，敬請三思三思。

雖然我們飼養的海養生物/植物亦是來自海洋，但小弟相信這些出售的海洋資源是經過有關國家監管與規控的結果。因此，自行從海裡拿走東西等同於從大自然盜取資源。

我16個月啦~ 老豆開新缸8個月終於肯落魚~~ :D :D

ToTo

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2 于 2003-07-29 23:02

Hi, ANNO,

I don't mean it. But just to speak out my feel on this topic. Hope you don't mind.
Yes, I agree with you. But I would look at this way. Pls do not take any thing (life) from the sea if you do not have equipements to keep them alive. Just like you should not buy a fish that you can't keep for long. If you think this rule is suit for everyone in the world. Then you should think about it. Because you are the one of us. I don't see any different you buy a fish or catch a fish. The out come is, you got a fish from the sea. May be the different is you took a fish from other country water.
Pls think about it. How many fish shop in HK? let's say 30 shops. each shop import fishes two times / week and 30 fishes / time (some was die before you see them). There is 7200 fishes were imported to HK / month. May be you would say it won't be that much. But pls think about it. Not only the HK people like to keep fishes at home. There may be over 100,000 fishes was caught / month. If you really want to protect the ocean. Then you should not keep fishes at home. No Demand No Supply. Right.
What do you mean by 請勿盜取? Why do you think the fishmen or Gov.has the right to catch fishes? Do they got the permission from the fishes? Does the fishes said : Come On, catch me baby!!
Sorry all, I think I said too much. If you think it is 盜取. Then we are the supporter. We are encouraging them to do it for us b/c we want the fishes.
I think we are the same - We Are All Selfish. But the different is we can keep them alive ( at least for some time).
I don't mean it. I am sorry if I make you unhappy.

ANNO

N佬

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來自: 香港區小島

3 于 2003-07-29 23:55

dear toto,

i certainly welcome any comment from anyone and i understand absolutely your argument. yes, to an extent, fish keepers are encouraging the marine life suppliers to dig out lives from the ocean. however, i presume the marine lives we could purchase from shops are imported from legal channels as countries which have abundant marine resources are gaining the $$$ by exporting their own marine animals in a controlled and licensed manner. and this broad assumption could sometimes be wrong as some marine suppliers might not be doing the business according to the rules and regulations set out by the corresponding gov't, and this kind of illegal act is something not within our control. thus, what i suggest to do is we should purchase marine animals via legal channels, not via personal reach for freebies even if we have the chance to do so.

on the other hand, people are more hesitant for getting something home with a price tag and once people find the price tag is gone on beaches or underwater (and no matter if that something is attractive at all as long as it's FREE), they would tend to take that home without much hesitation.

As long as we are buying marine animals, there would still be a demand & supply equation working behind the scene and rare species could sometimes cost thousands or even tens of thousands which would scare many away. however, when the price tag is gone, you could imagine how the situation could turn into?

i ain't an extremist on this kind of issue but as a scuba diver, what i have learnt from lesson one is NEVER take thing out from the ocean when diving and this idea has rooted in my brain since then.

thanks a lot for your feedback.

anno

我16個月啦~ 老豆開新缸8個月終於肯落魚~~ :D :D

大石

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來自: 元朗

4 于 2003-07-30 00:16

用高價經魚铺去印尼買就環保；千山萬水，放棄星期日的游閒去海邊拿少少動植物就破壞環境。

一百人每人拿一些或一千人一萬人每人拿一些便會對海洋做成破壞
            海邊有金撿就人山人海啫，撿爛石水草唔係吖嗎？
            環保要支持，但唔代表海邊的小小小小小小小生態資源都唔拿得吖(唔包括保护護區)？
            現在講的昰環保與生態資源開採的平衡。而唔俘一面倒唔准點點點！

以上祇昰個人意見，因本人最仲意千山萬水去撿爛石意及有長生不死特多時間。

ANNO

N佬

文章: 618
來自: 香港區小島

5 于 2003-07-30 00:40

大石兄，

請勿動氣，小弟只是見好像越來越多魚友喜歡自己往海邊拿東東回家，"若情況擴展"，長遠來說便會對海洋構成破壞，作為一個潛水初哥，我覺得有需要提出這觀點，因為我們在水底會發現更多更吸引人且很容易可以拿回家的東西，所以，我們提倡不從海裡拿走任何生物，是想大家亦有同樣的意識，若有冒犯敬請見諒。

據了解，這幾年的海洋保育工作頗成功，亦有新魚種出現香港水域，這都是大家努力的成果，若情況繼續向好的方向發展，可能有朝一日在西貢的近岸地方也能發現眾多七彩繽紛的蝶，仙，丑，魔，古B 齊集(其實我也在近岸地區見過手掌般大的蝶魚)，若大家也有從海裡拿生物回家的習慣，都時會否忍得手? 我想，從海洋拿走的東西，不是大或小的問題，是這行為的潛在慣性。

大石兄你拿的可能都是微不足道的東西，但難保其它有樣學樣的人欠缺自律，想拿甚麼便拿甚麼回家.....

我16個月啦~ 老豆開新缸8個月終於肯落魚~~ :D :D

Kenny

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來自: Shatin, N.T.

6 于 2003-07-30 10:59

ANNO just introduce his suggestion, but not an order; so just take it easy and discuss

In general circumstance, I agree with ANNO. However, if you once find a lovely, special or useful creature(which is not under protection) on coast or in sea, and you've confident to keep it alive before you reach home; it is acceptable and not so harmful ge(provide that you don't take so many). This is my point of view but I've not caught any creature and introduce into my tank at all.

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iczfirz

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來自: 我回來了

7 于 2003-07-30 11:06

其實可能只係 "盜取" 呢個字眼問題姐.. 大家思想不同就會有好多唔同既想法.. 但大家都係有一個共通點... 就係唔好令更小的地方再更小.. 例如香港的生物.. 保育下係有呢個必要..
有時人類所謂既文明.. 往往都會破壞我地生活緊既大自然..

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ToTo

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8 于 2003-07-30 14:09

Conclusion is:

1) Pls consider carefully before you buying / taking this. Make sure you can keep them alive.
2) We have to do our best, to keep our fishes / corals alive as long as we can in our tank.
3) Do not take any things that you can't keep for long.
4) Do not take any things it is rare.
5) Do not hurt them, and then release them. Do not let them die with painful.

I am a scuba divier too. I love to see the fishes and coral at in the ocean. I think the people still doing that even we ask them do not to. But we should not speak to hardly to them. Because it will make them unhappy. They would think we do not have right to stop them. It belong to the Earth but not us. We should use a genty way to ask them consider before doing this. I think it would make them feel better.

Anyway, Pls save our environment for our generations. Thank you very much.

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