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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-10-28 12:48 小弟呢半年黎都不停同白點打交道,由第一仗唔識死被白點入侵搞到手忙腳亂,至依家差不多係只要條魚真係夠吸引,見到有白點都無乜所謂照買,總算叫做有些少把握,唔驚俾白點害死心愛既魚魚:P 因耐不耐都會見到魚友俾白點困擾或更甚的害死心愛既魚魚,係度都希望同魚友仔分享下自己點搞白點呢個困擾不少魚友既問題既方法同步驟,尤其係D有飼養不能抵受銅藥的魚類,如太后、藍仙、皇帝等的魚友 :P 白點病成因及徵狀 要有效預防白點入侵,同埋係不幸俾佢地入侵時消滅佢地,首先須對白點病有所認識。由於網上在這方面已有的詳盡的資料,在此不冗,只簡略介紹佢既致病源同徵狀,等魚友有最基本但必要的掌握 – 白點病既成因係海水白點蟲 (Marine Ich, Cryptocaryon irritans),係一種寄生蟲,而非細菌或病毒。魚被海水白點蟲感染初期由於白點蟲數量稀少,可能只出現一兩點直徑0.5mm左右的白點 (如在魚腮內,甚至無任何病徵) ,稍後身上會陸續出現白點,並會有擦身現象,嚴重時全身及眼晴均會出現無數白點。嚴重感染白點的魚隻由於免疫力被削弱,很多時會同時感染其他疾病。 海水白點蟲生命周期及有關白點的錯誤觀念 海水白點蟲的生命周期主要分為三部份,寄生期的海水白點蟲會寄生於魚體上,吸吮魚隻體液維生,魚體上所見的白點既為這時期的白點蟲。寄生期的海水白點蟲會視水鈰扈d在魚隻身上3-7日,然後離開魚體,落下缸底並形成胞囊。胞囊繼而會分裂成近一百個子白點蟲。這些子白點蟲會於三至二十八日[於正常魚缸鄎(攝氏27-28度)孵化時間為3日左右]內破卵而出,漂浮隨水流再度感染魚隻。因此,魚友常有遭遇白點蟲「消失」一個月左右後,再以更大規模入侵的情況。漂浮期的子白點蟲必須於二十四小時內找到寄主(必須為魚類),否則會死亡。 由於漂浮期的子白點蟲必須於二十四小時內找到魚隻寄生以延續其生命周期,因此,即使是佈滿珊瑚及生物石的魚缸,亦只須在一個月以上的時間內不放養魚隻,該魚缸內的海水白點蟲即會被消滅。時常看到有魚鋪 / 魚友指白點蟲類似人類的感冒,自然存在於缸水,無法根治,此實為誤解。只要在引入新魚 / 珊瑚 (因店鋪缸水可能帶有白點蟲) 時做好檢疫 / 治療工作,確定新魚已無白點才放入缸,要達致一個無白點存在的魚缸 / 珊瑚缸絕非難事。 Hyposalinity + 紫外光 + Sera 白點水治療法 由於小弟在初次遭遇白點時曾試過因落藥致令數條心愛魚魚仙遊的慘痛經驗,之後在參閱一些資深魚友的經驗及一些網上資料後,改用Hyposalinity (Hypo)與白點對抗。個人經驗,Hypo對水質無大影響,不損害硝化細菌 / 生物過濾系統,亦無落銅藥後銅離子等毒素長期留於缸內及濾材難以除去的弊病。但與銅藥相比,Hypo的弱點是見效時間較長 (需二至三星期才能消滅白點,並須於白點消失後觀察一個月以確定白點被消滅貽盡),此外若不配合UV或其他藥物輔助,有機會無法根除白點。因此我現時用UV + Sera 白點水配合Hypo。此改良方法能確切消滅白點,由於Sera 白點水不含銅 (仲係reef safe添 :P),因此可用於太后、藍仙、皇帝等對銅敏感的魚。(我最近於亞媽記買的藍仙即用此法治療 :)) 進行Hyposalinity步驟 Hypo 可於FOT主缸 (不可於珊瑚缸或飼有其他無脊椎生物如蝦、蟹或鯊 / 鰩等軟骨魚的魚缸)或醫生缸進行。步驟如下 – 1. 以換水方式(短時間如兩日內1-2次)加入淡水將缸水鹽度調低至1.010 (攝氏25度時的讀數,28度時為1.007) 魚友可按這堛滌挩\不同溫度時鹽度計相應讀數 http://www.aquaserve.com/WetNet/Misc/SaltCalc.asp?Temp=0.00368%7C88&Measured=1.012 2. 保持PH於8.0或以上,有需要時加添PH Buffer 維持 PH值 3. 每日觀察白點消退情況,維持有關鹽度及PH直至最後一點白點消失後一個月 4. 在療程中長開UV。如白點於兩至三星期內仍未消失,連續六日按生產商指示加入Sera 白點水進行療程 5. 完成療程後,以每日0.002以內讀數慢慢將缸水鹽度調高回正常讀數 (我自己就偷師老坑前輩的方法,用絲襪包住筲箕再將鹽倒落去等佢慢慢溶 :)) 小弟用Hypo醫白點 so far 都未失過手 :I 希望少少經驗可幫到有需要的魚友 :) | |
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Posted by: Kenny Posted on: 2003-10-28 17:30 You are typing so hard, 康仔. Thx for your sharing :) | |
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Posted by: LC Posted on: 2003-10-28 20:16 多謝康仔和大家分享寶貴的成功經驗,希望新魚友能盡快學會醫白點,避免大量死魚,我想最重要是在魚數量少的時候放膽試落藥,而市面上很多可買到的藥都有魚友報告可成功醫治白點。 『白點蟲會於三至二十八日內破卵而出』是實驗室的實驗結果,記憶中孵化時間是跟水溫有關,當水溫低至0度時才要二十八日,一般魚缸水溫25度時孵化祇需三日,再加24小時後若找不到寄主便會死亡,因此4日內魚缸內的所有魚身以外的白點蟲便會全數死亡。長期出白點相信是魚身上的白點復發,而不是魚缸內的白點未死。 | |
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Posted by: 林哥仔 Posted on: 2003-10-28 22:55 在主缸將鹽度調至1.010持續一個月沒有問題嗎? | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-10-29 09:25 謝謝Kenny. 尋日睇偽_曬D urgent tasks, 又見D魚友仔不時受白點困擾,小弟先膽粗粗獻醜:I LC,謝謝你的寶貴資料,又學倒野了:) 以後唔使等成個月咁耐了:P:D 林哥仔,個人經驗,在主缸將鹽度調至1.010持續一個月沒有問題,D魚游得打得食得,連驕生慣養的太后系魚都無事:P,青/紫苔照生,啡苔又無多到 :P | |
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Posted by: tom82612 Posted on: 2003-10-29 17:18 精選 | |
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Posted by: 里昂里奧 Posted on: 2003-10-30 12:43 HI 康仔想請問你講那隻SERA白[$#28857]藥是不是有條啊拉伯在面那隻唔該 | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-10-30 12:53 里昂里奧,是的,就是那一隻 :) | |
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Posted by: 里昂里奧 Posted on: 2003-10-30 13:02 收到, 唔該康仔. | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2003-11-24 00:54 So that mean now i run 1.010 without fish 7days ( extral 3 days ) should be OK :P:P thank you 康仔 and LC :D | |
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Posted by: 鵬鵬 Posted on: 2003-11-24 09:44 康仔 wrote: 謝謝Kenny. 尋日睇偽_曬D urgent tasks, 又見D魚友仔不時受白點困擾,小弟先膽粗粗獻醜:I LC,謝謝你的寶貴資料,又學倒野了:) 以後唔使等成個月咁耐了:P:D 林哥仔,個人經驗,在主缸將鹽度調至1.010持續一個月沒有問題,D魚游得打得食得,連驕生慣養的太后系魚都無事:P,青/紫苔照生,啡苔又無多到 :P 康仔兄 仲想問下在1個月其間係唔係唔換水?:?):D | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-11-24 11:48 鵬鵬兄,是的. 不過我的缸NO3一向都係20-25ppm左右(行hypo時換走部分水應已進一步減低),因此未試過換水...但見過有些魚友的文章表示期間會保持換水 :) | |
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Posted by: LC Posted on: 2003-11-24 20:10 魚缸無魚時可考慮把水溫提升至30度,減短白點蟲的孵化時間至兩天半,加速牠們的死亡,加魚時可考慮先加吊試水一星期,再無白點後先至加其他的魚。 | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2003-11-24 22:53 LC san, thank you your sugestion. My tank normal temperature r about 28~30 :D so 1 week later maybe i try add tang :P thank you :D | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2003-11-25 21:14 康仔 = AhHONG ?? :P | |
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Posted by: LC Posted on: 2003-11-25 23:55 clownfish, you are welcomed. Your tank has white spot disease? | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-11-26 09:11 clownfish wrote: 康仔 = AhHONG ?? :P clownfish, Yes :) I originally registed in both webs using the login name of "康仔", but soon recognised that it is very troublesome to enter the Chinese characters every time I login. So change it to English at HkSaltfish.com, but was unable to change it here :(...so it remains in Chinese here for some time lar :D | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2003-11-26 14:04 LC san, yeah :( my Ma On died due to white spot ( look loke , many small white spot at body and fin ) , and second day strawbeery also died :( my FOt had died many fish. therefore would like to clear tank and start again :P 康仔 san, understand :D for my case i never log out, so every time when i enter the forum no need to login again :D:P | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2004-02-10 10:00 康仔 san, this medicine r safe for shrimp or not ??? and after treatment need change water or not. ?? kindly advice. thank you :D | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2004-02-10 15:33 Hi clownfish, according to the manufacturer, sera's 白艤 (without copper) is reef safe, so it is also safe for shrimp. However, it is too weak to be used alone without simultaneous application of hyposalinity, but hypo treatment on the other way is likely to kill shrimps :( | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2004-02-10 16:05 thank you :D and sorry that just now did not saw your reply. so i just ask again at the others post :I. so after this treatment. should i do water change to remove this medicine ?? and how the detail of water change ?? thank you :D | |
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Posted by: jervis Posted on: 2004-02-11 20:42 康仔 can post :Hyposalinity & Sera 白點水 photo, i worry buy wrong and where can buy it together?? thx a lot.:D:D | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2004-02-12 11:23 康仔 san i can not get Sera medicine . what is your commend about seachem paragard. ??? or anybody can commend about this medicine. thank yopu :D | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2004-02-13 14:59 康仔 san any photo or name of sera 白點水 ?? below r the link of sera product. but which 1 , can u name it. http://www.sera.ca/w_treat.htm thank you :D | |
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Posted by: hehee2000 Posted on: 2004-03-02 17:20 Should be this one http://www.sera.de/english/produkte/cryptopur.htm | |
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Posted by: jervis Posted on: 2004-03-02 21:07 what differentof this???? http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/topic_show.cgi?id=10136&h=1&bpg=1&age=0 | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2004-03-03 01:43 碟魚行hypo得唔得? | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2004-03-03 08:34 " human word " = " yun che " 碟魚行hypo得. i had try . others no idea :D | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2004-04-08 13:19 前兩日把中左細白點最嚴重的魚仔行下hypo,一時之間手頭上無ph buffer,倒少少鈣粉升ph,又幾好喎。今日都無事,仲由收口變翻開口。看來用鈣粉都唔錯,但個量比較難掌握。 | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2004-04-08 13:50 Ha Ha :D:D u r realy creative :D | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2004-04-08 14:09 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: 前兩日把中左細白點最嚴重的魚仔行下hypo,一時之間手頭上無ph buffer,倒少少鈣粉升ph,又幾好喎。今日都無事,仲由收口變翻開口。看來用鈣粉都唔錯,但個量比較難掌握。 你真有諗頭:D 通常大細白點魚收口都係因為D點搞到佢地好唔舒服,hypo時D點死緊一部分就會食番野:) 當然嚴重到有secondary infection就例外 :D | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2004-04-08 14:30 康仔 wrote: 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: 前兩日把中左細白點最嚴重的魚仔行下hypo,一時之間手頭上無ph buffer,倒少少鈣粉升ph,又幾好喎。今日都無事,仲由收口變翻開口。看來用鈣粉都唔錯,但個量比較難掌握。 你真有諗頭:D 通常大細白點魚收口都係因為D點搞到佢地好唔舒服,hypo時D點死緊一部分就會食番野:) 當然嚴重到有secondary infection就例外 :D 我行hypo時,個缸係一個清缸,乜都無除左個氣石,因為無後備的有菌的環,所以好鬼擔心d魚中nh3毒,唯有日日換水,換水又驚d廁所水及水喉水中的氯氣,好彩又買左枝prime,落落去d新開的水,等幾分鐘,撈哂d魚去新水到,d魚無中毒,真好。見枝prime又可以令nh3無毒化,叫我老豆幫我間唔中落d,化鬼埋d nh3。家下d魚係靠枝prime吊命。 | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2004-04-08 16:22 i have a thinking that can the ich treatment just did by hypo + 100%water change. by theory the ich will out from fish than take few dyas to generate the next generation. so if everyday we do 100% water change will remove all the ich ( no change for it to generate next generation and attack the fish again ). just until all the ich out from fish , it will be cure :D:D ofcoz the tank must be 清缸 . so this treatment can implement to some sensitive fish. no need to worry died due to medicine :D:D how is your opinion :?) | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2004-04-08 16:45 Hi clownfish, I have already tried the method you have mentioned on my late small Townsend. I did 100% water change (replenishment from maintain which was free of ICH) and sterize the container/equipment every day during a period of 1 week. After that, no more ICH was found on the fish :) The only drawback was that due to the fact that the fish will get poisoned by its own waste, the method is only suitable for very small fish or you have to have a large container and a very large reserve of water for replenishment. Also, some delicate fishes may not be able to stand the repeated movements and xx( | |
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Posted by: initial_d Posted on: 2004-04-08 18:15 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: 康仔 wrote: 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: 前兩日把中左細白點最嚴重的魚仔行下hypo,一時之間手頭上無ph buffer,倒少少鈣粉升ph,又幾好喎。今日都無事,仲由收口變翻開口。看來用鈣粉都唔錯,但個量比較難掌握。 你真有諗頭:D 通常大細白點魚收口都係因為D點搞到佢地好唔舒服,hypo時D點死緊一部分就會食番野:) 當然嚴重到有secondary infection就例外 :D 我行hypo時,個缸係一個清缸,乜都無除左個氣石,因為無後備的有菌的環,所以好鬼擔心d魚中nh3毒,唯有日日換水,換水又驚d廁所水及水喉水中的氯氣,好彩又買左枝prime,落落去d新開的水,等幾分鐘,撈哂d魚去新水到,d魚無中毒,真好。見枝prime又可以令nh3無毒化,叫我老豆幫我間唔中落d,化鬼埋d nh3。家下d魚係靠枝prime吊命。 我昨晚第一次嘗試同剛買返黎修藍紋進行hypo再加Methylene Blue(淡水浴療法) 但有以下問題: 1.可否由qt or主缸抽水出來,然後加入已Conditioned之淡水降至SG到1.01 , 還是預早整定一桶已Conditioned之淡水,即已用water conditioner去氯除毒 之淡水加盬調較。 2.水的PH用什麼牌子提升最好呢!又可以快!我用JBL唔多覺佢有升到! 3.進入淡水浴前或後是否又須要由1.022慢慢地 =>1.010,令魚魚習慣。 Tks | |
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Posted by: clownfish Posted on: 2004-04-12 08:54 康仔 san thank you your experience sharing :D initial_d san 1.可否由qt or主缸抽水出來,然後加入已Conditioned之淡水降至SG到1.01 , 還是預早整定一桶已Conditioned之淡水,即已用water conditioner去氯除毒 之淡水加盬調較。 botk ok lar method is ok lar . i had not try Methylene Blue before . just worry mixe medicine possible cause poison .better no use " conditioner去氯除毒 " . just keep water overnight + air pump more safe lor . 2.水的PH用什麼牌子提升最好呢!又可以快!我用JBL唔多覺佢有升到! i use seachem . but never check the result. not sure good or not :P 3.進入淡水浴前或後是否又須要由1.022慢慢地 =>1.010,令魚魚習慣。 i do it immediately :P but make sure PH and temperature r same as main tank . | |
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Posted by: orguess Posted on: 2004-04-19 14:12 想問問是不是藍咀不能行hypo?我試過小丑就ok,但條藍咀在化淡過程中未到1.01就突然死亡。果次係個裸缸(10L) 以一秒兩滴淡水將水化淡,約一個小時就瓜0左。check 過pH,溫度都okay。 | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2004-04-19 14:39 orguess你個10L缸有無過濾系統:?) 仙魚應係最能抵受hypo架喎...雖然藍咀本身弱雞D... | |
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Posted by: orguess Posted on: 2004-04-20 09:12 康仔 wrote: orguess你個10L缸有無過濾系統:?) 仙魚應係最能抵受hypo架喎...雖然藍咀本身弱雞D... 有個潛水式過濾,另加一袋生物環,暖管。由主缸取salt水,滴水喉水。 用同樣方法用在條天王仙,今朝都bye-bye0左 :( | |
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Posted by: orguess Posted on: 2004-04-20 09:17 同加埋氣泵打氣,不過我是用藍葯水。我成功個條小丑都係用呢個setup0播。 | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2004-04-20 10:02 orguess wrote: 有個潛水式過濾,另加一袋生物環,暖管。由主缸取salt水,滴水喉水。 用同樣方法用在條天王仙,今朝都bye-bye0左 :( 你袋生物環係主缸用開的還是新的:?)仲有,你條藍咀同天王仙幾大:?)10L水即使有足夠過濾我估計最多最多只可用以醫1"-1.5"魚,否則即使轉到水條魚一放NH3應過濾唔切而瓜得 (我幫我亞爸整既25L Q缸唔落化NH3化學物最盡亦只可放2.5"魚...)...你是次出事原因我估計大致如下- 1. 你用成個鐘先加到10L,其間得幾L,太少水,少量NH3濃度就會好高 2. 由主缸取水(PH>8),打氣排走水中CO2令PH進一步上升,水中大部分NH3-->NH4-(劇毒) 3. 滴水喉水-->有chloroamine(又係劇毒) 所以條魚瓜得屬正常...小丑無事是好彩... 建議你不要再用滴水方式轉淡,可分一/兩次對鉆餲H及加除chloroamine化學劑(如seachem prime)後以換水方式轉淡會安全好多...同時,如屬新魚最好等佢開口食幾日野才做hypo,會更安全. 此外,10L缸條魚大小小個缸即會超出負荷,建議用20-25L的缸會較合適的 :) | |
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Posted by: orguess Posted on: 2004-04-20 14:02 唔該哂康哥! 我D環係係主缸哄AD 水喉水隔過夜,兩條魚差不多有兩寸長。我相信康哥的分析係正確令我上了寶貴的一課。 今次返去又會俾人鬧,買0左0野都救唔到D魚,而家重要再買 :(。想問問重有邊隻葯係reef safe?D 前輩介紹個D 係魚街搵唔到! | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2004-04-21 09:47 不用客氣:) 水喉水隔過夜不能除去chloroamine的. Chloroamine結構本身相當穩定,同氯氣不同,佢唔會因打氣而加速揮發,更厲害的是即使用RO/DI方式亦不能徹底將它去除...如果不加化學劑,它可存於水中達一星期以上. 其對魚隻毒性比氯氣更烈,所以我之前先叫你一定要加prime等去除劑 :) 個人經驗,無邊種reef safe既白點藥單獨用係有效的,只會浪費金錢罷了. | |
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Posted by: Dickson Posted on: 2004-04-21 15:01 都係果句老話;預防胜于治療。:D:D 我]應該茩契M找預防于先的養魚方法。 如果 真係得鬙梒I病,小病時可好以治,大病時都係無得救的了。:(:( 一味咁做, 只係會浪費金錢與精力。雖然係好消极的講法,珙O好多魚友的經驗。;);) | |
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Posted by: orguess Posted on: 2004-04-21 18:44 唔該兩位, 買多個QT係無可能嫁喇,咁買隻日本濾桶仔(都有成60~70L/hr)做過濾同養菌唔知得唔得?我見俊兄用石頭,環同泵都OK,所以學佢用個10L缸做QT,唔知我做溜0左D 咩呢? | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2004-04-21 23:59 orguess wrote: 唔該兩位, 買多個QT係無可能嫁喇,咁買隻日本濾桶仔(都有成60~70L/hr)做過濾同養菌唔知得唔得?我見俊兄用石頭,環同泵都OK,所以學佢用個10L缸做QT,唔知我做溜0左D 咩呢? 個qt本身有惡菌就唔係咁得,淨醫白點都仲ok。 我最近又試下清缸行hypo,個缸得3-4公升水,一次過醫3條小丑加一條黃吊,一日落兩次去nh3藥水,每日全換水一次,當然又會加除氯藥,醫細白點都得。效果仲好過用有環的qt。不過,要條魚本身產生廢物少先得,若條魚多屎,水量就要多d。 | |
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Posted by: orguess Posted on: 2004-04-22 08:48 唔該哂俊兄!:) 我見到卡X有個淨水器賣,濾器連膽$450可以去水喉水中的chlorine 、重金屬等等,好似幾好咁。重見到對面馬路有間賣海水魚都係好似有緊佢,唔知有無網友用過? | |
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Posted by: jervis Posted on: 2004-04-24 07:33 i use one, buy in "ngau tau kok", may be good,.......not sure | |
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Posted by: kenneth_leung Posted on: 2004-06-13 23:11 康哥: 我想問問呢Sera 白點水係米真係reef safe嫁? 同埋用佢醫細白點velvet得唔得? 我最近比細白點攪到好煩, 唔該曬:( | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2004-06-14 17:25 sera有3隻白點藥,得一隻係無銅的:) 細白點我都未試過用佢,淨係用過sb-02(not reef safe B)),幫你唔倒咯... | |
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Posted by: kenneth_leung Posted on: 2004-06-14 21:50 唔該曬先康哥, 我今日行魚街見到kent有隻RxP for ICH既藥係reef safe既, 但係寫明要有skimmer先用得(我又冇喎), 好怪, 所以無買 :( | |
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Posted by: cbxtak Posted on: 2005-08-19 01:18 今日開始行Hypo﹤﹤1009水﹥﹥但唔落藥為期六周睇下白點死定我D[$#40060]死!:!( | |
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Posted by: explore Posted on: 2005-08-19 02:34 yeah! thanks! | |
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Posted by: cbxtak Posted on: 2005-08-22 05:15 cbxtak wrote: 今日開始行Hypo﹤﹤1009水﹥﹥但唔落藥為期六周睇下白點死定我D[$#40060]死!:!( 行[$#21655]Hypo﹤﹤1009水﹥﹥4日,今日死[$#21655]條火炭:(,想問[$#21523]火炭係咪好弱雞?但係太后系一D事都無行得走得又食得:)???!! | |
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Posted by: rpbatman Posted on: 2005-10-24 14:27 今日是 去掉所有生物石, 行hypo 1.010. 第五日, 所有魚都ok, 呼吸ok, 無水印. 條新加馬鞍都開口, 搶口食乾糧. 但當我測試 NO2 同 NO3, 發現 NO2 上升,由黃升到淺橙, NO3 下降, 由 20 下降到 10. 唔知咁係唔係因為無[$#21655]生物石 (只有濾桶), 定係行hypo 1.010 令消化細菌減少[$#21655]呢? | |
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Posted by: cbxtak Posted on: 2005-11-20 20:48 cbxtak wrote: cbxtak wrote: 今日開始行Hypo﹤﹤1009水﹥﹥但唔落藥為期六周睇下白點死定我D[$#40060]死!:!( 行[$#21655]Hypo﹤﹤1009水﹥﹥4日,今日死[$#21655]條火炭:(,想問[$#21523]火炭係咪好弱雞?但係太后系一D事都無行得走得又食得:)???!! 好返晒啦,[$#12475]事嘟無:D;):^) | |
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Posted by: he Posted on: 2006-03-27 18:44 LC my french angel and my other angel already had white spot, somehow my tank is reef + fish. wat to do? according your very informative instruction, i have to take out all corals right, pls reply | |
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Posted by: LC Posted on: 2006-03-28 10:09 he wrote: LC my french angel and my other angel already had white spot, somehow my tank is reef + fish. wat to do? according your very informative instruction, i have to take out all corals right, pls reply he, It is a very difficult situation that you have fish with white spot disease while they are in a tank with invertebrate. I think you have a few options: 1) Remove the fish to a bucket , or a quarantine tank iwould be even better. Treat the fish with copper there. Those parasites in the main tank will die without a host (fish) there in a few days. When the fish are cured, replace them back to the main tank. 2) Add copper directly to the main tank, if you do not have a quarantine tank. However, copper is toxic to invertebrate. They would probably die. But you can save your fish. 3) Remove the invetebrate before adding copper to the main tank. Keep them temperory in another bucket or tank. When the fish are cured, change water to remove copper. However no matter what you do, there may still be some residual copper in your main tank. Such low level of copper is still toxic to your invertebrate. What method you choose depends on your focus of interest, whether you want to keep the fish or the invertebrate primarily. | |

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