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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-13 19:58 tank:D | |
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Posted by: wingchan Posted on: 2003-03-13 19:59 how much? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-13 20:03 sump | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-13 20:03 H&S F2001 protein skimmer | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-13 20:05 Adding sand | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-13 20:08 five T5 lamp and two 150W鹵素 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-13 20:12 Sump1 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-13 20:30 sump2 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-13 20:34 落石 | |
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Posted by: cow Posted on: 2003-03-13 20:43 Tung Tung: CAn you tell me the footsize of H&S150 protein skimmer in cm? Thanks cow:}) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-13 20:45 first night | |
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Posted by: nebula Posted on: 2003-03-13 21:12 嘩！ 玩珊瑚！ 用T5.2！ D喉路排得很靚！ | |
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Posted by: 林哥仔 Posted on: 2003-03-13 22:55 六個出水口是否用一個泵? | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-13 23:33 咁似連記野咁既... 中間水流好似唔多夠咁喎... 幾隻牛你會掛高佢下話? | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-13 23:35 唔記得問..FOT定係RT.... 水冷呢.. 幾隻牛都好熱下..櫃有冇油風.. | |
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Posted by: mic761 Posted on: 2003-03-13 23:48 你的T5管幾多錢支? 邊度買? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-14 02:42 It's a FOT tank brought from Reeflink. With 130 pounds LR. 暫時冇水冷住.全用Iwaki 70R pump 推.火牛already hold with a metal container. | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-14 14:05 iczfirz wrote: 咁似連記野咁既... [color=red]中間水流好似唔多夠咁喎...[/color] 幾隻牛你會掛高佢下話? 係中間水流好似唔多夠.. 唔好估係上落水流唔多夠.. 希望唔好會錯意.. | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2003-03-14 17:17 hi tung, you using one 70 pump, it is not enough wo. 1) you have sand bed, 2) many junction 3 random water circulation, not good for fot wo. just my little command. sorry | |
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Posted by: TommyTsui Posted on: 2003-03-15 11:11 TungTung: Your 缸好正 wor :good: 起初望仲以為珊瑚缸添，原來係FOT. :D 小弟有以下愚蠢問題，如有任何得罪，請見諒! SORRY! 你用一個70R pump 推 2個 UV, 2個沙樽，然後經6個口出缸，途經咁多器材及駁口，會唔會出到缸時水流減弱呀? 如果水流弱[$#21655]，而你又咁多生物石，d 屎會唔會積累係沙面和石間中，而去唔到滴溜落沙缸過濾呢? If adjust the 出水口，確保水流能流去滴溜方向及don't have so much stone, 相信過濾會好d wor :D 請問一支T5 lamp how many watts ar? Is it water restricted? It seems that they are very closed to water level wor. Any danger ! Besides, the electric bills will ...... and the temperature of the tank will...... 櫃內 two back boxs are what? 火牛? Does the 櫃 good enought for 散熱? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-15 23:13 多謝各魚友的comment. 其實我是初哥一名. 很多問題都是從上網, macaw 和Reeflink 練老闆 學回來. 1.Set 缸 時已發現中間水流唔多夠, Iwakai 70 pump is not powerful but just enough . 我本想upgrade to Iwakai 100, 但Reeflink 他們說 100 power 太大和太嘈. Any other suggestions? 2.T5 lamp is hanging at the top, with two halogen lamps underneath it. Both of them are well above water. So I dont know the exact voltage. 3.two back boxs are 火牛 for the halogen lamps. They are not very hot. I've got three private messages, but my mail box is emtpy. Why? So please send the message to my E-mail account instead. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-15 23:32 lamp | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-15 23:35 water is now clear | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-15 23:36 another view | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-15 23:42 你 fot 舖咁多沙既 ? | |
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Posted by: zz Posted on: 2003-03-16 09:14 TungTung兄: 恕我多咀我反而擔心你個柜和木地板,你換水同set器材要小心,盡可能避免水滴到柜內和地板上,否則很快發黑發霉,小心!:P | |
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Posted by: nebula Posted on: 2003-03-16 11:38 東東兄： 缸中水流可用潛水泵輔助。 另外如果你真的想齋養魚的話，利用DSB都無話唔得，但就會接近老外的養法，即是密度會較低。而萬一不幸爆發白點及其它疾病時，能使用的藥物種類亦有限制，事倍功半。 個人意見，你的缸現有的設備用來養珊瑚更佳，又或者多種水草養細魚來豐富其畫面亦未嘗不可。 祇是大家吹吹水，一齊學野。 仲有，這是否你的新居？很漂亮的房子！祝新居及新缸愉快！ | |
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Posted by: nebula Posted on: 2003-03-16 13:38 手頭上有小小資料，睇下得唔得？ 不過養魚是好私人的事，自已鍾意就點玩都得。 | |
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Posted by: hwl Posted on: 2003-03-16 14:33 本人係 Reef Link 店主, Tung Tung's tank 係我與店內的數拍檔的設計. 首先非常多謝各位的寶貴意見及討論,一起交流亦係 Reef Link 一向的開店意念. 以下數點為 Tung Tung's tank 的 set-up 意念, 謹供大家分享討論: 1. 水流問題 - 大致可分上落水量和缸內水流分佈. 缸內如出水口少則水流分佈差. 缸內水流並非單靠大水量,得很多時還會弄巧反拙. 反而出水口的力度和分佈才是要點. 另外, 種種客觀條件亦要考慮, 如噪音,價格及位置等. 2. DSB for FO - 由 day 1 開始, 主缸都己決定' 不落藥' 此亦為我養魚多年的必循的路. 3. Tung Tung's T5 係普通 output .. 每支 28w .. 共 10 支(5套). 另所有支架均有全封閉式燈罩. 各位如有想知或討論的項目, 請多多賜教. Regards, HW Lin | |
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Posted by: nebula Posted on: 2003-03-16 15:40 OIC，完全明白晒！ 東東兄你大可放心了，有連老闆作為最強後盾。:D:) 而我亦見到東東兄的Post已經放了食苔螺，由此可見其不落藥的決心，由衷希望能繼續看到東東兄日後加魚的過程，分享閣下成功經驗。 在此謹祝連老闆及所有工作人員工作愉快。 | |
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Posted by: fishingko Posted on: 2003-03-16 17:07 TO:tung tung I see your tank have one fish wa:).....is what fish???Can you post the fish photo to me see :)???Thank you tung tung~ | |
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Posted by: 老坑 Posted on: 2003-03-16 22:31 是否有部份回應遺失左呀？？？？ anyway......lets have a beer first...........:P | |
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Posted by: tommyivy2000 Posted on: 2003-03-19 01:38 我是養開紅龍的,現在想改養咸水魚,想做一個缸大約60x25x30,請問你的缸在什麼地片做,缸和全部+人工要多少$? 本人是好有誠意想知. 請多多指教 | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-19 07:11 tommy.. 你有沒有舊架生呢.. 有既可以參考呢個[url=http://www.hkaquazone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5388#post5388]post[/url].. 用下ugf雞雞地玩住先.. 不防吸收下d基本經驗.. 咸水魚和淡水魚玩法完全不同呢... | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2003-03-19 11:24 如果你有用開濾筒, 咁咪直接用濾筒做過濾就得o架o拿, 我以前都係養開淡水, 而家改為RT, 大部份用番以前o既器材, 雖然感覺上冇底缸咁方便, 但都ok 啦, 自古成功在嘗試, 努力罷! | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-19 20:10 開缸籃臉,已開口 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-19 20:21 tommy: My tank is rather expensive as it is 訂做 and make in HK. It cost ~$25000, including pump, skimmer, and 老仔和.人工. I order it from reefxxx(連x) TungTung wrote: tommy: My tank is rather expensive as it is 訂做 and make in HK. It cost ~$25000, including pump, skimmer, and 老仔和.人工. I order it from (連x) Now I would not recommand any fishfirend to make any similar fishtank from reefxxxx...... They have very poor after-sales service. Once your tank has any technical problem, Boss Lin's face will change 180C... he is just a business and profit-making man. I am really really disappointed to Boss lin 24-8-2003 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-19 20:35 很多謝魚友關心沙床過厚問題.我會密切留意. 到現在為止,沙床並未有過多大便, protein skimmer function quite well. | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-19 21:08 哇 ~ 咁多屎積係沙面呀 ??? 你唔掃走佢去滴漏果樹 ??? 小心 ~ 小心 ~ 你兩層沙既 ???? 咁點做 dsb 個 function 呀 ?B)B) $25000 哇 ~ 真係有錢囉你 ~ 好, 等我賣左層樓整個 5m 游池模型咁既缸俾自己浸下水先 ! 你用藍面仔黎開缸, 哇 ~ 都好富貴下姐 ;);)我都係用死左既魚屍用 6日時間黎開缸 jar :P | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-19 21:36 大大舊.. 森美仔都係用紫月黎開缸啦... 如果我有機會又setup個缸... 我都會考慮下用條硬淨d既中size仙黎開.. 好過買咁多魚毛咁冇引... | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-19 22:24 kk ~ 係呀 ! 收到 ~ 咁等我下次新開缸用條硬淨d既 4" - 6" 法仙開缸先 ! | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-19 22:31 法仙惡架.. | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-19 22:40 車 ~ 我開缸之馬, 開完缸咪掉左佢囉 ~ 惡............又 ~ 如 ~ 何 ! :) | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2003-03-19 23:15 qqleo wrote: 車 ~ 我開缸之馬, 開完缸咪掉左佢囉 ~ 惡............又 ~ 如 ~ 何 ! :) 好毫呀！ | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-19 23:21 俊俊 ~ 有幾豪呀 ??? 我個袋得一毫子 jar ! :) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-19 23:27 qqleo wrote: 哇 ~ 咁多屎積係沙面呀 ??? 你唔掃走佢去滴漏果樹 ??? 小心 ~ 小心 ~ $25000 哇 ~ 真係有錢囉你 ~ 好, 等我賣左層樓整個 5m 游池模型咁既缸俾自己浸下水先 ! 你用藍面仔黎開缸, 哇 ~ 都好富貴下姐 ;);)我都係用死左既魚屍用 6日時間黎開缸 jar :P 果D不是屎,是LR D碎石.其實第一條魚係珊瑚美人,金線吊. 藍面仔是過了一星期才add 的 | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-19 23:30 呵 ~ 原來係石碎, 我見你有魚仲以為係魚屎添 !;) (但係咁粉既 ??) 你養左幾耐水呀 ? 影個全缸有魚相上黎 碌碌啦 ! | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-19 23:37 應係生物石上死去既生物碎多d.. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-19 23:38 qqleo wrote: 呵 ~ 原來係石碎, 我見你有魚仲以為係魚屎添 !;) (但係咁粉既 ??) 你養左幾耐水呀 ? 影個全缸有魚相上黎 碌碌啦 ! 珊瑚美人是第一日魚友送的.現在過了二星期,有啡苔but under control. NO2 =0 . 魚兒都很活潑 | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-19 23:57 呢排天氣飄忽... 溫差幾大.. 小心白點... 如果一有出現... 要小心處理呀.. 唔好疏忽.. 不過你依家都係缸大又新.. 魚數不多... 除左N-cyc未成熟外.. 有害物質亦有一段時間先會大量慮績做成威脅.. 當你有成幾千到幾萬蚊魚係個缸度游游下時.. 你就會有心理壓力架喇... 所以話養魚唔簡單架... 慢慢來啦.. 萬大事你都有最強後盾.. 定啦.. :) | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-20 08:57 yeah ~~ 最強後盾 !!!:^) (好似賣緊油站廣告咁) :P | |
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Posted by: EdwardChu Posted on: 2003-03-20 10:03 qqleo wrote: yeah ~~ 最強後盾 !!!:^) (好似賣緊油站廣告咁) :P 最強後盾 = ??? = downtown = all memeber | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-20 12:21 朱朱 ~ 最強後盾 <== 就係呢度有問有答, 唔洗成日落魚街 side 晒 d 時間 & 24 小時營業呀馬 ! :) i like 24 小時 ..... :):):):) | |
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Posted by: cody Posted on: 2003-03-21 00:01 qqleo 你兩層沙既 ???? 咁點做 dsb 個 function 呀 ? 唔明就睇下先再出聲..........最強後盾..........!!!!!! http://www.rshimek.com/reef/sediment.htm | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-22 00:00 哈哈...呢篇DSB耐不耐重溫下都幾好.. 絕對認同DSB設在Reef缸中的效能.. 又平又簡單.. 但同時.. 參考過的魚友既文章.. 之前都提過.. http://calvinchiu.ufnec.com/forums/showthread.php?s=f50872c12dad66def8a93008737c3f22&threadid=2758 當中講述DSB設在FO缸的缺點.. “曾提及某D魚種會有挖沙的習慣，很易令DSB沙底的sulphur 走入水中” 相信如果在無任何人可保證不發生這情況下.. 一個意外.. 因魚的本性而挖起大風沙..使水質急速變壞..反缸..值得嗎? 若要為著人用我用DSB的心態..不考慮實際所需而設..值得嗎? DSB對FO的優點真的大過缺點嗎? 既然現在己經使用了.. 只要小心奕奕.. 留心缸內既變化.. 必能看到東東兄日後擁有一個非常漂亮既魚缸.. 記得分享一下成功經驗給大家呀.. | |
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Posted by: SL500 Posted on: 2003-03-22 00:46 Tung Tung.......DSB for FOT:?):?):?):O):O)........I wish you good Luck !!!!! | |
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Posted by: chchau Posted on: 2003-03-22 00:59 dsb我都用開養魚,只要沙面夠流冇屎積,冇問題,點會反呀? 用底o候咪重多屎,又要洗沙.......................... | |
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Posted by: cody Posted on: 2003-03-22 01:11 “曾提及某D魚種會有挖沙的習慣，很易令DSB沙底的sulphur 走入水中” 珊瑚缸就不會有這個問題?? 唔通珊瑚缸就不怕 sulphur ??? 問題是出在魚到，不是 FO 缸 或 珊瑚缸的問題。 明知用了 DSB 還要買條挖沙魚的話，有事都是自己搞出來的 請想清楚才答人.............最強後盾.................................... | |
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Posted by: JACKAL WONG1970 Posted on: 2003-03-22 02:11 小弟是新手一名..現有問題如下.魚缸size(48x32x20)滴漏缸.我只係養魚的.我的器材如下..化淡用H&S110.上水泵用iwaki40rx.鋪2吋沙做裝飾.不用喉底架能嗎?應該買什麼的沙比較好?(粗定幼較好?)我想用2枝36吋30w光管.用1套籃管.１套白管合共4支ok嗎?殺菌燈想用18w的.過強嗎?最後懇請各方好友給予寶貴的意見.....^^謝謝 | |
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Posted by: chchau Posted on: 2003-03-22 02:17 用1,or 2 號沙......... | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-22 02:29 橫掂等三點login番工司開工.. 討論下呢.. :) “不建議在單魚缸中使用 dsb,因為不少的魚類都有 挖沙的習慣,很易令dsb沙底的 sulphur 走入水中” ... 出自魚友willy 有誰知道什麼魚100%不挖沙呢... ? 有誰想象到我的蕃茄..鞍背在FOT中會時常四處挖一個沙洞扮自己同葵玩呢... 有人信嗎.. ? 有誰有相同經驗嗎..? 大的FOT如這個66吋的缸... 養的魚魚相信不會只是細條的.. 兩條大的互相打鬧的機會常有... 除時在沙面打個轉... 也會翻起部份個幼沙面... 情況有可能厲害得會令沙內底層的毒素散出... 問題就大了.. 住我家隔離的一個魚友.. 他的魚缸是沒有沙的.. 他提到當年他的700L缸內有二十多條仙吊.. 但當加了一條幢後.. 第二天一大清早就成缸反了.. 一條不漏.. 思想一番後.. 他得知原來他爸爸去夜尿時發覺魚魚在打架.. 揚起了沙.. 就是一個四五吋厚的荒癈UGF... UGF已可以如此.. DSB.. 可想而知.. chchau.. DSB內毒素未必是屎或一粒粒你看得到的物質... 吹沙面亦吹不散DSB內的毒素..(如果吹得散的還可說是DSB嗎?)看不到的毒素如sulphur才是真正反缸殺魚兇手.. 另外你的沙粒不算是很幼.. 亦相信沙不是很厚... 你亦應有定期翻沙兼即時換水的習慣吧... 對嗎? 所以應不會有大量sulphur在內呢.. 你大可放心這點.... 亦希望要明白不是什麼沙舖得厚就成為DSB呢.. 留意.. 這個66吋缸是有一層似sugersize的幼沙來作最頂的一層呢.. 都是同一句說話... DSB+FOT.. 這個風險... 值得嗎? DSB對FO的優點真的大過缺點嗎? 當然.. 各施各法.. 大有可能有非常成功的例子.. 但勤加注意.. 小心奕奕.. 主人的心機會在魚缸中表現出來... 東東.. 有否想過萬一你的缸內出現白點時有什麼良方對策嗎? 快想出些主意來.. 不然到期時你手忙腳亂心慌慌不知如何是好呢..:) | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-22 02:49 討論姐.. 何必不停修改自己的文章呢.. 自己說得不清不楚誤導了他人說了別去.. 跟著自己修改了文章又反過來說人說了別去... 何苦呢? 想清楚吧.. 是鬧市冰室... 不是鬧事冰室... 沒魚友會喜歡鬧事啊.. 很不想這個post談談下談到要掉進delete版中呢.. |) | |
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Posted by: cody Posted on: 2003-03-22 03:17 還是未答到我的問題重心 ......... 珊瑚缸就不會有這個問題?? 唔通珊瑚缸就不怕 sulphur ??? 你答D唔答D.................我學唔到野的!! 有誰知道什麼魚100%不挖沙呢... ? 有誰想象到我的蕃茄..鞍背在FOT中會時常四處挖一個沙洞扮自己同葵玩呢... 有人信嗎.. ? 有誰有相同經驗嗎..? 如果這個是珊瑚缸的話是不是就不會有問題呢! ! sulphur 就不會整死D魚呢!! 討論姐.. 何必不停修改自己的文章呢.. 自己說得不清不楚誤導了他人說了別去.. 跟著自己修改了文章又反過來說人說了別去... 何苦呢? 想清楚吧.. 是鬧市冰室... 不是鬧事冰室... 沒魚友會喜歡鬧事啊.. 很不想這個post談談下談到要掉進delete版中呢.. 是你不明我打條 LINK 出來想做乜，我才會改正!! 下次如有不明歡迎先問明小弟的用意才回覆!! 還有如果是不可以改正 POST 的話，請關去這個工能!! 謝謝!! P.S. 如果這個有最強後盾的網是下歡迎小弟過來學野討輪的話，也可以出聲講明的。我好似有頭到尾都無搞過事!! 我只是唔明就問，唔識就問，唔識不會亂答!! 唔通就是搞事 !! | |
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Posted by: cody Posted on: 2003-03-22 03:27 TO iczfirz 愛因是但 強迫自己相信四百火老仔加厚沙論而引入一大堆角珊瑚, 他承認這是他一生中最大的"成就"!! 我是好光明正大的，如果你不滿意我的話可以唔俾我入來，不過不要張自己對養珊瑚的一知半解就當成是完全明白亂說一通。 用 400W 鹵素燈+dsb養角只是一種好普遍性的做法，全世界都好多人是這樣養的!! 請不要做井底之蛙!! | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-22 04:08 現在討論的是FOT.. 我冇有說到RT不會有這個問題啊.. 要是要答.. 就是當然RT一樣有這個危機.. 但在一個討論FOT中的文章說到RT來..何解..? 不過這點不算重點.. 不討論也吧.. 為何要扯來RT一起談呢.. 莫非這個是66吋的RT? 是否我看錯了? 不過又是真的太似.. 我和砵仔等開始時都看錯了.. 所以不難怪討論得亂了點.. "請想清楚才答人..." 看到文章改了又改.. 想得一陣子回應完又發覺前文又改左.. 好難想得得清楚呢.. 又可否等我過了一日後再發覺你找不我要答你的東西..我再改一改我的文章那就所有人都會明白些呢? 那樣到時就變作你要"請想清楚才答人..." 了.. 每個人簽名都是他自己的個人感覺.. 你都想要管嗎? 那我以說我唔喜歡人帶帽出街嗎? 更何況我的簽名有問題嗎? 最大的成就.. 還有是Quote著的.. 可不小事啊.. 何解說我是一知半解就當成是完全明白亂說一通? 即是有四百火老仔加厚沙論而引入一大堆角珊瑚是亂說一通? 另 你又不是說粗言或扮人入chatroom搞事.. 為何我要不讓你進來? 不過這全都時題外話.. 回主題吧.. 要專重文章擁有者呢.. "我已經決定不會再過這裏同時也 delete 晒我有關的 post 。" 呢句聽回來不到半年呢.. 我還差點忙了.. 每當見到一個個回應的出現.. 就擔心著過了一陣子就可能變成了一個個"deleted"的內容出現.. 不會再談別的了.. 我亦不想再為這個沒有固定答案的主題答辯了... 待時間過去.. 缸的成熟.. 魚的加入.. 一切一切就等東東他自己引証吧.. 東東..記得有什麼不明白的地方時就找找我們呀...:I | |
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Posted by: choinm Posted on: 2003-03-22 11:14 cody wrote: qqleo 你兩層沙既 ???? 咁點做 dsb 個 function 呀 ? 唔明就睇下先再出聲..........最強後盾..........!!!!!! http://www.rshimek.com/reef/sediment.htm qqleo兄不過係唔明想提出討論(所以佢用????),唔使教人教到咁火爆掛(又笑人最強後盾,又咁多!!!!!!)。 再睇落去重有一段 cody wrote: 好學青年，想學野!! 邊個教我呀!! cody大佬，邊個敢教你呀。 | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-22 11:36 choinm 兄 ~~ cody wrote: qqleo 你兩層沙既 ???? 咁點做 dsb 個 function 呀 ? 唔明就睇下先再出聲..........最強後盾..........!!!!!! http://www.rshimek.com/reef/sediment.htm 多謝你無沒有"睇錯我的用意", 但.....唉, 一蟹不如一蟹 !! 等我得閒都要去學下 d 標點得號用法, 我就係唔明個 DSB function 點樣 work out 囉, 所以用左 ??? 發問, 我仲以為 ?? 既作用唔係用黎發問野添, 我要番去問下 teacher 先至得 ! "請想清楚才答人.............最強後盾...................................." <=== 真係要想清楚先至好答人呀 ! 唉 ~~~ edit 咁多次 / 野做乜鬼野呀,...... 謝謝回覆 :) | |
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Posted by: mrfong Posted on: 2003-03-22 13:49 嘩！攪乜鬼呀！沙漠風暴唔係十年前落[$#21655]畫咩？！做乜又沙塵[$#28378][$#28378]，因住殺錯良民呀！再咁落去TungTung's 66" new tank會無啦啦 做[$#21655]犧牲品架xx( cody大佬8D :DSB係咪係大英百科全書度有神聖不可侵犯[$#22021]定義架:D講笑咋！sorry sorry！:P 其實係度大家交換心德，吹下水，唔同見解好平常[$#21867]，兄台如果覺得有人吹錯水，會累死魚[$#22021]話咪發表一下，造福社群，救魚一命勝造七級過濾呀:D:D唔好咁火爆啦，伊拉克果邊都爆到九彩啦，呢度唔好喇瓜！ 兄台出自善意大家都知，誤會[$#21655]係惡意批評就唔好啦！ 做[$#21655]惹火尤物，死鬼瑪莉連夢露唔肯過你架:D:D:D 罪過！罪過！:( | |
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Posted by: mrfong Posted on: 2003-03-22 13:54 改正！ :DSB ==> DSB :D | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-22 18:28 JACKAL WONG1970 wrote: 小弟是新手一名..現有問題如下.魚缸size(48x32x20)滴漏缸.我只係養魚的.我的器材如下..化淡用H&S110.上水泵用iwaki40rx.鋪2吋沙做裝飾.不用喉底架能嗎?應該買什麼的沙比較好?(粗定幼較好?)我想用2枝36吋30w光管.用1套籃管.１套白管合共4支ok嗎?殺菌燈想用18w的.過強嗎?最後懇請各方好友給予寶貴的意見.....^^謝謝 JW.. 各拖各法.. 用不用底喉架其實亦可.. 但不防把巳過濾的水吹入底喉架中.. 會比較傳統的底喉架加抽水泵來得好吧.. 但如果有沙... 那沙面的水流一定要做得夠呢.. 不然會怕魚屎沉積在沙面或石堆內的阻水流位附近.. 比較多問題呢... 40RX你的出水口會否收扁作加速加壓做水流嗎? 如果是的話.. 不防研究用40R.. 光管沒意見殺菌燈亦沒有意見.. | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-22 22:10 KK 兄 ~ 但如果有沙... 那沙面的水流一定要做得夠呢.. 不然會怕魚屎沉積在沙面或石堆內的阻水流位附近.. 比較多問題呢... 請問有咩問題呀 "?????" <===留意 ! 40RX你的出水口會否收扁作加速加壓做水流嗎? 如果是的話.. 不防研究用40R.. 有咩好研究呀 " ???????" <===留意 ! 謝謝回覆 | |
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Posted by: EdwardChu Posted on: 2003-03-22 22:37 大家都發表過意見，其實很早之前講過，各施其法，每個人都有自已的一套的set缸原則和喜愛，我就覺得自已喜歡便可，沒有絕對及專家。相對此文章大家出發點是出於好心，及幫助缸主的。無論如何，現在多了一位同好才真正可喜可賀。:D | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-22 23:49 qqleo wrote: KK 兄 ~ 但如果有沙... 那沙面的水流一定要做得夠呢.. 不然會怕魚屎沉積在沙面或石堆內的阻水流位附近.. 比較多問題呢... 請問有咩問題呀 "?????" <===留意 ! 40RX你的出水口會否收扁作加速加壓做水流嗎? 如果是的話.. 不防研究用40R.. 有咩好研究呀 " ???????" <===留意 ! 謝謝回覆 水流不夠.. 屎屎漬沉.. 水質自然不好.. 你有聽過魚缸內有些位置的水質用NO2測試會見紅..但在別的位置郤是水質正常嗎.. 大可能如此所至.. 40R相比40RX是揚程較大..流量比較小 你可比喻R是車的低波檔.. RX是高波檔.. 沙缸上水如貨櫃車頭往斜路上.. 出水口收扁有如貨櫃車連拖了長貨卡.. 那你會用低波檔行車還時高波檔呢? 但當然可能大家的上水喉路不同及出水口的大小不同而有不同的上水阻力.. 所以.. 要小心算一算呢.. 另一個版本多說一次.. RX是高流量.. 但低壓力.. 如所駁的位置與出水口是接近水平就較適合..例如缸面..上方...RM是低流量..高壓力..較適合用在沙缸位置..因大壓力..水流上到主缸還保持一定流量..不會減弱 其實仲有一種叫RM.. 但用外牙的.. 不多人用啊.. 如有說錯請大家更正一下啊.. [img]http://www.aquarium.org.hk/attach/11533-iwaki-embed.gif[/img] | |
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Posted by: rickyccp Posted on: 2003-03-22 23:58 Hi iczfirz, 看了你們的對話,我也發現有小小問題. 我的60" FOT 只有 1" 粗沙,每月洗沙時, 喲魚魚 好像有喲問題, 會不會是 sulphur 的問題.如果不洗沙會不會有問題呢! 我是貪靚才用沙,現在有六十多條魚( 由10" - 2" ) 後來我每次洗沙後也落少少TDC,好次好喲. 請問有冇好方法洗沙.我是用 FS 的洗沙喉. 謝謝各位魚友 !! Ricky | |
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Posted by: ufnec Posted on: 2003-03-23 01:17 對不起！文章已被網主刪除，因遺反網頁守則，請大家冷靜及不要再次遺反守則，多謝合作。 | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-23 02:45 Sorry! I just cancell your post.!! | |
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Posted by: zz Posted on: 2003-03-23 08:47 喂!喂! 大家好似講到離哂題喎!個心好似不是討論養魚方法,而玩針對似的,停火啦!我想東東都不想人家在他的魚缸記錄文章中罵戰,而又幫不到自己的,朱總都講過啦,沒有一套特定方式養魚的,只要你那套方法成功養到魚,就是成功的方法,比如說有人可以用一年時間就讀完大學,有人就要用五六年時間才讀完,始終大家都畢到業。我覺得多d吸收人家的長處,再運用到自己的魚缸內,豈非更好!;) | |
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Posted by: EdwardChu Posted on: 2003-03-23 08:54 對不起！因不想引起太多的人身攻擊，雖然該文章沒有人身攻擊之嚴，但亦張文章一起刪除，多謝合作。 | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2003-03-23 09:24 kk san ~ 謝謝你的詳細解說 ~ 唔洗睇到我唔知頭唔知路要 "估估" 下諗錯野就唔好噢 :) 謝謝回覆 :) | |
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Posted by: sps Posted on: 2003-03-24 01:51 TungTung：V.Wo.V 我想你或會被這麼多回覆嚇壞，但請你不要驚慌，因這處久不久就會這樣，你要適應，無他，你的缸子實在觸動多位人士的利益、思想、行為。 一個新手的旦生，本應值得高興，而TungTung哥哥想著放上來大家討論討論、指點指點，耐何回應者太直接地指出當中或會發生的問題，而這問題又打中某些人的死穴，將好心的討論、回覆變成沙漠大戰，明眼人一看就知一句(最強後盾)的用意是想TungTung將來多些發問、討論、研究，當然未必所有問題都能解答或解決，但耐何被打中死穴者只會捉住四隻字嘈嘈嘈﹗無他，相信DSB設在FO要講得有道理用得著，實要好好口材(與技術無關)，唯有找點出錯處嘈，轉移視線。 TungTung你討論一出，其實又有另一番境象，因被打中死穴者，其實老早發脾氣話以後不來此網，並同時Delete所有回覆，此刻，TungTung一出，牛鬼蛇神速報到，實在值得一讚。 說回討論，是客觀討論還是主觀分析相信有識之士自有定論，再講只會越說越好笑，如真的要討論，由的的缸子設備、價錢、手工、用料、設計都有排講，有排數，$25000呢個數字已足夠討論。 iczfirz 你的簽名我實在有感而發，借來一用，因本人老早已愛上400W加DSB加硬角仔，可惜老早已遺憾。 最後請網主EdwardChu 哥哥如本人上述任何字眼或語句有任何違犯貴網規則，請盡快通知本人，本人樂意立即修改，請不要Delete此回應。 | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2003-03-24 02:15 好一篇summary。:D | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-24 05:36 sps.. 不知你是誰.. 但你的說話亦吸引.. 亦非常到這個題.. 我都明白亦充充感受到利益所在必有聲音.. 但可否多說一點.. 很想知呢:P | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-03-24 11:28 Wa! Such a hot debate! There is my second fish tank. My fisst tank is a 30" small tank and bought from SeaKixx. At that time I am really inexperienced and all the setup is suggested by the boss---use UGF with coral stone as sandbed. Only one small underwater pump ( it makes the temp raise to 32C), no UV, no skimmer, no sump...... The worst thing is..... I always rinse the sand bed and let all the dirt floating in the water. The result .. of course.....xx( So before setting up this 66" tank. Starting from 6 months ago, I did lots of internet search and find quite a few useful site including this one. Thanks for the help of all fish friends, my knowledge for coralfish has improved..... at least I know what is N-cycle, UGF, sump....etc. Actually my inital plan is to setup a 2 t0 3" sand bed, but when I start to realize the sand bed is too deep. It is already too late. Now my sand bed is 5" inch high, with a 1.5" layer of sugar size fine sand at the top. Although many people say DSB is not good for FOT, are they just referring DSB built by ordinally size sand?. ( please correct me if I am worng. When compare with corsal stone/sand sandbed, I find the top layer of sugar size sand is quite difficult for the fish dirt to sunk to the deep layer of the sand bed---> ? also quite difficult for the toxic gas generate from the deep layer to goto the top?) In addition, is there also some bacteria will convert the hydrogen sulphide to less toxic substance? | |
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Posted by: cody Posted on: 2003-03-24 23:50 HI TungTung 你好呀!!等了你幾日.la...你終於出場了，需然你不識得我不過我個人覺的如果你不在的話其實作什麼討輪又好研究又好嘈又好，都好似是多鬼如的。 其實你可能覺得我都幾無聊什麼事的鬧呀鬧呀!! 哈哈不過我就是這樣火爆的，他日如果我地有機會認識的話你就會知我就是這樣的了無得改的!! 在進入討輪之前我想先伸報一下利益會好D，不是的話又俾機會第三者成機閒言閒語就不好了。 其實我同魚街多間魚舖都是好熟的，當中有 REEFLINK 的 LIN 啦!!! 川河的強哥啦!! 大記的鵬哥啦!! 以其中更加介紹了好多魚友去強哥到做缸。所以間單D講我無必要特別同邊一間講好說話。因為如果真是需要這樣想的話機本上我都好易中的了。 另外還有一點是好重要的，其實我本人一向也不建議人地在 FO 缸中用DSB 這一種過濾方法的，你可能會奇怪如果我一向都不建議的話為什麼還會有這麼多事發生呢.!! 在未講我不建議的原因之前先睇返一d舊post 証明一下我無講大話先 http://www.hkaquazone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=d081b23cdad9ccd87ed822ff8defa728&threadid=1529 http://www.hkaquazone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=49da466e4a71c51a4278a1266122cd23&threadid=870 因為好小答 fo 缸的問題，所以搵到的實在不多。 講回我不建議人在 fo 缸中 dsb 的原因，其實我個人覺得問題最大的不是 dsb 本身，已是用的人，就已一般我在香港所見到的 fo 缸為例，跟本大部份人就不識得忍手一個缸養幾十條魚大又有細又有多到好似海鮮缸那樣，唔好話 dsb 啦!! 好多時單用滴漏都頂唔主，單是這一樣野我就不夠膽建議人用dsb了。 正是魚多問題也多!!! 反而dsb沙底的 sulphur 走入水中這個問題我就有另一個睇法，如果這個問題是不可以控制的話，那麼在珊瑚中也好易發生。那樣的話為什麼會有這麼多人建議在珊瑚缸中用 dsb 呢??如果只是單單因為他可以控制到缸中的 no3 的話，就算不用 dsb 也可以有其他一樣易用的方法就好似草缸，紅樹等等。 就我所知在珊瑚缸中要防止這件事發生最主要是加強沙面的水流 ( 這樣做最主要是可以另到sulphur在流出沙面後可以好快的散去 ) 和不要放一些大形的番沙或挖沙的生物。 講到這處就有會產生另一些問題的了。 一)) 在買魚前是否需要了解魚的機習性，這一點上我想就算有無沙底有是應該主意的。 二)) 如果萬一真是有好像 iczfirz 所講的例子法生怎算呢??這一點我個人覺得是想得太多了，就已一些經常在珊瑚缸中討輪的問題作個例子把。 好多人時常都問那種仙魚在珊瑚缸中養是最安全的呢。那一種先不會咬珊瑚呢。我想這個問題就算是睇晒所有中英文魚書魚網都好難有一個答案。 所以通常我都是同他們講每條魚都有他的個性，我養緊的無事不代表你買一條同樣的一樣會無事。 就好似我個魚缸那樣最多時試過養了兩條火焰仙一條火背仙一條檸檬批。 我就中了檸檬批了，當我發現他咬珊瑚後只好立即捉走他送俾 FO 缸的魚友。 已我所識的人當中就有人中火焰仙有人中火背仙...大家最後的做法都是捉走他送俾人。所以真是講唔定的。 我想講到這處你都知萬一你真是發生挖沙這個問題的話也應知道怎樣處理的了，要解決實在間單不過。 還有就是在本人認識 DSB 這種過濾方法後，不計英文的網，只是在 PH 8.4 到好耐之前有人試過這問題反缸的，需然他是用 PLENUM 不過這兩種過濾其實好近似所以可以當作相近過案去睇的。已他正正是放了大量的番沙生物入缸做成的。 不建議還不建議，不過不代表不可行，在 FO 缸中用 DSB 有無好處呢?? 這點我想除了可以有效控制到魚缸中的 NO3 之外 (( 需然我知各人對 FO 缸中 NO3 的高低會不會影響魚這一點上意見實在好多，有人說有事又有人說只會影響到魚產卵的問題，不過在這點上我所知的更小，因為實在連小小經驗也沒有，話晒我個都是珊瑚缸 NO3 高極有限 )) ，也可以增加水中的微生物。 有微生物當然有他的好處，不過同時也會產生另一個我一直都不明白的問題。就是一直都有 FO 缸的魚友話，石中沙中會有白點虫你有沙有石又怎落藥呢?? 在這一點上我的睇法是，已我所知缸中除非長時間用藥不是的話就算是有無沙底的魚缸都會有的，特別是經想買新魚的就更多，其實每當魚的健康變差就會好易中白點的了，間單D講可以話同人的傷風感冒差不多。 在如何減低魚仔生病這點上，就已我平時在網上所見，大部份 FO 的魚友也不建議人直接在魚缸中用藥的，因為這樣做的話好易張成個過濾破壞，最好就是另開一個 QT 。 一來新魚可以先養定無事後才放入缸中減小舊魚中招的機會， 二來如果真是不幸有魚生病時也可以捉出來醫，不會影響到全缸其他的魚。 當然除了QT 之外還有其他好多野可以減小發病的機會。就好似在缸中用 UV ，不過 UV 這樣野有好又有不好，一來他可以殺死水中的病菌，但同時也會殺死其他有益的微生物和菌。講到 UV 還要提多你一樣野就是 UV 不要單單是睇廠商的說明去計算 W 數的用量，因為正確的是 UV 用法是需要配合魚缸的水量，流過 UV 時的流速再去計算所需要的火數，這一點是好重要的好多人成日話用 UV 無用就是無計過就用，最後 UV 只能殺去缸中小量的細菌就變得無用了。 有關 UV 計算的書 http://www.hkaquazone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=be5f0e9408abb975e371ecc32c9c07e6&threadid=2707 除了UV 之外另一樣非常重要的就是應俾多D有的營養的食物給魚食。 營養這方面其實是好重要的魚就像人一樣，但他們的處境其實是幾慘的，你想想他們長時間生活在一個密封的空間中，游動的空間已經不多，如果連一些有營養的食物也不足的話，怎會健康呢!! 可能你會問平時我們餵的乾糧中不是已經有好多乜乜物物的嗎?? 無錯是有的，不過黑中也有問題。 一)) 乾糧入邊的維他命在你一開了之後就開始同空氣接足，長時間的話就會養化變成無用。 二)) 單單一兩種的魚糧是否已經提供了足夠所需的原素呢!! 這方面需然我不知你用什麼餵魚不過可以講差不多一定不夠的，所以才會在市面上開發了其他有關的附阻產品，就好似 維他命呀，魚油呀，蒜汁呀等等 ，邊隻好用邊隻不好用就不公開平價了，因怕其他魚友會覺得有賣廣告的問題。如果你需要這方面的資料可以 PM 俾我。(( 在營養這一點上我知就算到了現在也不是有好多魚友是那麼注意的 )) 已經講了好多野可能你會睇到頭痛，不過大至上我想講的都應講晒了。 你也許會奇怪為什麼會有人這麼得閒唔識得你都同你講這麼多野。 最主要是你在 FO 缸中用 DSB 算是一個好特別的例子幾值得討輪，需然你也有在其他網中 POST 你個缸出來，不過因為好似無邊個網有這處這麼大反應的。 如果在討輪中無正反兩方的意見的話我覺得就好難詳細討輪的了。大家一面倒的支接或反對又怎會有進步呢!! 其次難得有 FO 缸魚友用 DSB ，需然小弟不建議人在FO 缸中用 DSB，不過不建議不代表就是反對，加上你已經 SET 好晒個缸當然希望可以幫到你成功養到一個 DSB FO 缸 。 只要緊記水能載舟，亦能覆舟就得了。好多時好如壞只是你一時的決定和做法所影響的 最後我想你知道其實用 DSB 養 FO 一定還有其他人的!! 這處也有一些有關 FO 用不用 DSB 的討輪 http://hksaltfish.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=001240 還有這處有更多有關 DSB 的討輪，正面反面都有可以學到更多野。 http://reefcentral.com/forums/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=950842&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending 希望這些資料可以幫到你，如果你還有興趣同我研究除時歡迎!! | |
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Posted by: cody Posted on: 2003-03-25 00:27 SORRY TungTung 本來是不應再在你的 POST 中再講其他無關的野，不過如果另開 POST 的話又怕其他人不明不白，所以只好同你借用一下小小的地方等我澄清一下。 SPS 兄需然我不知你是邊個，不過我法現只要是我有DD嘈的話無輪是邊個網都即時會有一D不知名的新登記人事出現話我這個不是那個不是。就像兄你一樣 http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/user_info.cgi?id=1241 2003-03-24 01:01新登記 2003-03-24 01:51 即時出 POST 夠晒新鮮 我想問你是想講出真說話還是想做成一個假像我在這件事上有利益問題呢!! 用心又可在呢?? 會不會是不知邊間魚舖的大哥因俾人搶了生意又錯怪在我身上呢!!不過怎都好你用得假名就不會認是邊個的了我也習慣晒。 不過我想在這代我自己澄清一下 第一在 TANG TANG 我是完全不識的，不識就無同他講過野啦!!需然我地應在 REEF LINK 到見過一兩次 ( 你可能不知了我就是成日晚上都去 REEF LINK 到吹水，又無頭髮那個人 ) 所以他的缸用不用 DSB 我無影響過他。這點我想像 TANG TANG 他本人最清楚 第二 25000 貴定便宜跟本就每個人的睇法都不同，入邊包了D乜唔包D乜，去第二間又會不會再便宜D跟本就每個人都不同價。在這一點上我不需要保護 REEF LINK 因為大家覺得貴的話都不去做的啦!!我怎講都是無用的。 第三 如果我真是要搞破壞拉開話題分散大家注意的話，我想我都識學 SPS 轉個 IP 換個新名搞好過啦 !! 做乜要用返我個真名呀。 第四 如果話我拿那四個字嘈的話，我無野好講其實我只是覺得這四個字好搞笑好好玩玩下得唔得這都是我個人的感覺!! 因為個人感覺是大晒的在這個網中。 要講的就是這麼多，我一向行事都是光光明明不怕人講唔似得人成日轉名!! | |
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Posted by: sps Posted on: 2003-03-25 01:42 您好：Cody;) 這次終於有進步la，我還想你又會不會好似之前幾次吟，又老作下一些恐嚇Email出來，見你還會數回蘇洲屎出來說，真的給你嚇一跳，這次就不同la，識得寫下一些似真非真似假非假的有少少深度回覆，你不知我是誰?我就是成日寸完你，去下你個網同你吹水個位大佬，吹得我脹:P(太熱氣條利太紅)，見你這幾天又走來走鬧人，我無野玩親熱鬧回覆下你，得唔得，不過，你真的無頭髮得好可愛(網主細佬佢自認，不能Delete) 講回個名問題，大佬早兩天特然給你提醒，當日在水域用(雷帝)這個名回覆討論，這個人不是你嗎?我有記錯嗎?你何來光光明明? http://www.hkaquazone.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=566&highlight=%A4%DB%A4%A7%B2%D7%B7%A5%AFu%AB%C0%ABT 你不是一定用真名嗎?:P;) 金鐘KK可不可以同我做個咀秒秒的公仔樣 成日話自己讀得書小，你估你是X龍大哥，滾完返來都話自己讀得書小當無事發生?我一樣讀得書小，難度我又會無頭髮?可以走來走去搞事? 最後請網主EdwardChu 哥哥如本人上述任何字眼或語句有任何違犯貴網規則，請盡快通知本人，本人樂意立即修改，請不要Delete此回應。 | |
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Posted by: cody Posted on: 2003-03-25 01:51 你記漏了，除了雷帝還有海馬仔這個網名，不過不是什麼秘密好多人都知同還有你可以用這些名再查一查我這三個名有無好似大哥你那樣是出來搞事之後就不見了的，我一樣是正常答一野一樣是那麼臭皮氣。 | |
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Posted by: cody Posted on: 2003-03-25 01:55 死唔記得講 tang tang 又借用了你的 post 講其他野..........sorry sorry | |
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Posted by: cody Posted on: 2003-03-25 02:11 sorry tang tang 忍唔主又打多個 post 又要借用地方 小.x兄.......sorry 打錯字是 sps 兄才對 大家識得就真是好了，不過我有些地方不明，我嘈來嘈去都好最多語氣不好或笑下人，好似一向都無好似大哥你那樣中傷他人或人生攻擊的...........當然如果我無記錯的話，大哥如果我有的話請代為搵出等小弟好好改過。 只是想問問大哥你這樣做有什麼好處?? 開心d?? 還是可以得到什麼利益呢?? | |
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Posted by: sps Posted on: 2003-03-25 02:13 光明正大的Cody 正確寸法是TungTung，請你不要成日寸錯tangtang，我想你讀書或會小過，或不及我專心聽書 網主，如此句有問題，本人樂意修改 我無野玩扮超人 | |
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Posted by: cody Posted on: 2003-03-25 02:53 sorry sorry 連 人地個名都寸錯了，正明我真是讀得書小啦!! 大哥多謝提點!! 又要同 tung tung 講聲sorry | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-25 09:46 提提一點.. CODY閣下像忙了東東是位新魚友. 不是老手.. 就算老手亦非可對魚隻的反應作出適當的應變.. 身手的難度就更加高.. 請閣下明白.. 珊瑚缸.. 多數是小魚種.. 大極有限.. 論到在FOT.. 就看東東現在也有至小一條5吋仙來開缸.. 將來當然相信會有上十數條大魚.. 相信當然一定有些過尺的.. 就回看本人之前談及的鄰居.. 就可以一夜萬魚歸終.. 雖可能是百中冇一..但當東東你有過萬元的魚魚在缸時.. 你就得要小心呢.. 來到討論區.. 重點在於討論!!! 閣下有另一魚友找你得久.. 麻煩閣下你看一看吧.. 不然他又像閣下一樣地苦等了.. http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/topic_show.cgi?id=4902&pg=1&age=0&bpg=1#42599 | |
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Posted by: ufnec Posted on: 2003-03-25 10:03 CODY>晒氣啦,得閒黎cut 0下 D SPS好過啦....教人做乜,去打馬吊好過 400W + DSB + SPS | |
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Posted by: ufnec Posted on: 2003-03-25 10:07 error | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-03-25 11:09 以上是Software error: 是聊天室的newpost@forum的功能未完整.. 將會作出改善. | |
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Posted by: EdwardChu Posted on: 2003-03-25 11:24 ufnec wrote: CODY>晒氣啦,得閒黎cut 0下 D SPS好過啦....教人做乜,去打馬吊好過 400W + DSB + SPS thank for your help EdwardChu | |
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Posted by: EdwardChu Posted on: 2003-03-25 12:21 相信大家已發表過自已不同的意見，現亦有離題的地方，此文章張會 鎖上。敬請原諒。 | |
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Posted by: EdwardChu Posted on: 2003-03-30 23:12 EdwardChu wrote: 相信大家已發表過自已不同的意見，現亦有離題的地方，此文章張會 鎖上。敬請原諒。 認東東兄的回覆，本文章從開，但希望大家討論，請不要針對便人出文章。在此祝東東兄，人缸健康和美麗。一起成長。 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-01 01:28 Thanks for 朱總 to allow me to reopen this tank record. What I want is to share the growth, sucess/failure of my tank with you and the valuable comments from the fishfriends. 但希望大家只是討論，請不要針對別人出文章。 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-01 01:35 經過四星期後.... | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-01 01:44 啡苔已退. N02 = 0.1 to 0.2 (trace) N03 = 1 (trace) NH4 = 0 pH = 8.1 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-01 01:57 X得意 買了葵來試水. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-01 02:05 都冇事:D 所以....所以... (我知一定會比各位大佬鬧:P) 我好鐘意這張相....感覺好似真係在海影一樣8D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-01 02:32 全家褔 | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-04-02 16:32 Tung Tung, Glad to see your tank's update. It is a very beautiful tank. Could you share with us the maintenance schedule. e.g. how long and how much of changing water? Do you use RO/DI water? Any additives? How many times and how much of feeding? Further, do you use QT to assimilate your new fish before adding to main tank? Do you see any worm or small creature appear in the sand bed? My opinion, don't add fish too fast, I think your tank is not yet mature. Thank you | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-04 10:45 Ernest: Thanks for your comment. So far I do not change water yet. As all NO2,NH4 and NO3 are at low level. But I plan to change 5% of water every 1-2 weeks when my tank is matured. I dont have RO/DI filter...... Now the brown algae is undercontrol and I dont think a FOT need it. I use kent and tetra additives and also frozen shrimp to feed my fishs. Only two times per day. There is thread- like worms appears in the sand bed. I have brought a small QT, but so far I dont use it to assimilate new fish, as I only have six fishes in the main tank. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-04 10:49 Latest problems: yeserday the temp jumps up to 31.5C. My queen has some whitespots in the fins. But she looks very active and starting to eat. I borrow a chiller from a friend and set the temp to 28C Should my tank needs a chiller? | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-04-04 11:07 你咁大缸水.. 水泠咪要好大.. 用埋你要加抽風喎.. 你個缸係間廳既.. 熱氣會怕keep左係個廳度.. | |
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Posted by: EdwardChu Posted on: 2003-04-04 11:09 養魚很少人用水冷的，因為大多數人只用PL管，所以溫度在日和夜相差不太遠，有很多書有提出，白點出現其中一個原因是當缸的溫度相差幾度或以上，便會出現白點。如用水冷個人覺得是好的，(當然對魚和珊瑚缸)，因可以使缸中的溫度不會上下得太遠，如set 28度當然對魚一定沒有問題。 | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-04-04 11:14 仲要小心一樣野.. 夏天你會開冷氣.. 果一下子降溫都有d驚架.. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-04 11:49 EdwardChu wrote: 養魚很少人用水冷的，因為大多數人只用PL管，所以溫度在日和夜相差不太遠，有很多書有提出，白點出現其中一個原因是當缸的溫度相差幾度或以上，便會出現白點。如用水冷個人覺得是好的，(當然對魚和珊瑚缸)，因可以使缸中的溫度不會上下得太遠，如set 28度當然對魚一定沒有問題。 What is PL 管? Initally the water temp in my tank is 28C but yesterday it raise up to 31C. ( I think because the weather is too humid, the water cannot evaporate and bring away the heat). Initiall there is no chiller so I switch on the air-con and the water temp drops to 29C. I know 養魚很少人用水冷的.Now what I worry is what will happen in the summer, I expect the temp in my tank will raise up to 33C, can the fish withstand? . | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-04 11:53 iczfirz wrote: 你咁大缸水.. 水泠咪要好大.. 用埋你要加抽風喎.. 你個缸係間廳既.. 熱氣會怕keep左係個廳度.. It need 1 to 1.5 horsepower! If i really decide to install a chiller , ( now it is a temproary measure as my fish and tank is too new), I will break one of my window and connect the chiller so the 熱氣 will go outdoor) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-04 11:59 TungTung wrote: Ernest: Thanks for your comment. So far I do not change water yet. As all NO2,NH4 and NO3 are at low level. But I plan to change 5% of water every 1-2 weeks when my tank is matured. I dont have RO/DI filter...... Now the brown algae is undercontrol and I dont think a FOT need it. I use kent and tetra additives and also frozen shrimp to feed my fishs. Only two times per day. There are thread- like worms appears in the sand bed. I have brought a small QT, but so far I dont use it to assimilate new fish, as I only have six fishes in the main tank. | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-04-04 12:03 嘩.. 扑開個window.. 你老虎話ok的話.. 咁都係一件好事.. 搵番連記啦.. 佢地做分体機加鈦炮水冷係有一手.. 應會平過同耐用過買部魚缸用既水冷.. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-08 18:20 Last week another new member: 7" French Water temp ~ 27 to 28C NO2 and NO3 still trace. The Queen still has white spots in her fins. But there is no change in the past 7 days. I add 蒜contained 丰年X but the fish dont like it. What should I do? | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-04-10 10:48 Hi, Tung Tung, As your tank will not treat any medicine, I think that assimilate and treat the new fish in QT before adding to main tank is important. Although it is not 100% guarantee but it is better than catching your fish out of the big main tank for medicial treatment afterwards. I am surprise that your tank get such high tempature. First is to find the heat source then try to elimiate it. At this moment, I guess the heat is from your HQI. Your T5 lights are much cooler than PL, therefore you do not need to consider it. Do you have any air circulation device installed in your tank top? Such as computer fan or ventilaton fan. Cooling the tank by air circulation and evaporation are cheaper methods. Secondly try to increase the movement of surface water. Further, what is your daily lighting schedule? You may set timer to turn off the HQI or even all lights in the afternoon and turn them on in the evening. I am using this method now. As I can see the tank only in early morning and the evening, turn the light off in the middle of the day does do any harm. Glad to know that worms start out in your DSB, they will keep your sand bed clean and healthy. Happy fish keeping | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-04-10 10:55 Tung Tung, One more point, do you have any ventilation in your sump and carbinet? I think there is another heat source because of the pump and HQI transformers. | |
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Posted by: nebula Posted on: 2003-04-10 23:37 Hi Tung Tung兄： Ernest所講甚是，請參考。 另外，我覺得白點的原因可能是溫度落差太大（+/-３度），這樣會構成stress從而衍生白點病。我對加蒜的效果有保留，食物添加制的話Kent的Zoecon可能較佳（對體色維持）。可以的話，儘量延長加魚的時間間隔，避免過濾系統超負荷，尤其是你愛的大條仙魚。我都覺得你缸魚幾正，希望你繼續分享成果，等大家可以多點認識DSB在FOT的應用。 祝成功！ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-11 01:36 [thanks Ernest and nebula. I think the high temp of my tank is related to 濕度. As initially the temperature of my tank is quite contant (~ 28 to 29C for 2 weeks), but suddenly jumps to 31.5C in last week, when the weather become humid.... the high humidity will reduce the rate of evapouration , so less heat can be brought away. I know using the computer fans can bring down the temp a bit but I am just wondering its effectiveness in my tank. Can other FOT fishfriends share their experience with me? Anyway, I have asked Reeflink to give me a quotation for the installation of 分体水冷. They will come to my flat to have a look this saturday. Sincerely hope that 連老板 can give me a good price la :D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-11 01:45 Is my queen has white spots or stone? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-11 01:47 purple moon | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-11 01:51 my tanks has lots of hiding space...even a 7" french can find a comfortable place. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-11 01:53 french | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-11 01:56 sideview | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-11 01:58 clam | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-11 02:02 I bought a 6" gray from Kenneth tonight. But I forget to bring back the DC. Will post it later. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-11 02:08 Thanks for the help and advice from 連老板and other fish friends . My tank is gradually mature la. | |
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Posted by: nebula Posted on: 2003-04-11 08:00 的的太后是生石。 | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-04-11 09:36 太后生完到法仙.. 藍面都可能會.. keep住水質好就會自己好番晒架啦.. 生石應唔會死魚既.. 你隻蚌買左幾耐? 有冇俾仙魚咀呀? 如果有的話.. 親佢未咀死前就好俾左你個珊瑚朋友仔啦.. 你個缸才一兩個月.. 沙內層都仲係咁白.. 冇咁快叫成熟下話:P 平時你餵食量幾多呢? 其實你係咪仲係開住果兩支150W? 有冇試過唔開水溫係幾多? 開燈時間又係幾多? 幾多點開幾多點熄? 你家的抽風如何? 底櫃有抽風未? 有冇諗過停咁支UV? 有冇諗過搬出兩隻150W牛? 有冇度過櫃頂開左燈有幾多溫度? 如果安排得好.. 咁... 其實可能己經幫到dd溫度問題.. | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-04-11 10:10 Wah! Was the clam bought from Reefklink? I am afraid it will become angelfishes' "dim sum". Better give to me before it being eaten.:P ~~just kidding. But frankly, I think that you have begun lost control in adding live stock. | |
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Posted by: 小控 Posted on: 2003-04-11 10:15 Tung~ 你條太后是生石~不是白點~ 生石是D病毒走左去魚體的細胞引起~ 一般~無乜藥可醫~(用藥只係殺掉個細胞) 只要在這期間~ 保持水質良好~食好D~增加魚兒的抵抗力~ 魚兒~是可靠自己的抵抗力~好返~(好小會死魚) 時間~可長可短~ 但~相反~如果~水質沒有改善~或~食得不好~ 咁~魚兒係生石時候~ 可能抵抗力~弱左~而感染其他病而返老家~ 個人~不建議~剪左D石~ 因~怕你個缸D水質不好~ 剪左D石後~怕會感染其他病菌~ 水溫~你能夠保持水溫的~溫差不大便可~ 溫差越細越好~(約兩度內) 咁~看看~控制燈開關時間、空氣流通加風扇 可唔可以控制個溫差啦~ 呢樣野要自己想想啦~ | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2003-04-11 11:02 Hi if 生石 to the fish mouth, then dead hard la............very command | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-16 11:37 Unfortunately a major diaster had happed after adding the puple moon and gray. :~) The french, gray, purple moon had developed ICH.... I had tried hyposalinity...but it is too late... they all passed away. |) I will buy a fully equiped QT tank in the future.... put all the new fish and low dose copper for at least two weeks, before adding to the main tank. Very sad today.... | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-04-16 11:53 其它魚魚如藍面呢? 過唔過到[$#38359]? | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-04-16 13:10 New tank syndrome. Not suprise, expected. No matter how well your system design or how good your equipment are, it will happen eventually if you add fish too many too soon. Be patient, seat back. Let your tanks eco-system time to mature, give the tank system, equipment and lives times to integrate well with each other. | |
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Posted by: zz Posted on: 2003-04-16 21:58 東東兄: 你才開缸一個月,就加了這麼多魚了,而且還幾大下,我想你的水質開始變,你要小心呀;太后起的白色一舊舊野,是對水敏感,如魚缸水穩定的話,新加太后是不會起石的,只有水質不好才會生石,我忠告你要忍下手,不要加魚住,真的要待水質穩定才加魚,因你的缸不能直接落藥,如全缸魚都有白點,那就很麻煩了,就萛有醫生缸也都不能全部放進去,小心:) | |
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Posted by: Arsenal Posted on: 2003-04-17 14:05 這麼大的魚缸,一定要有耐性, 要慢慢地加魚,一個月內就加那麼多魚,一定送死, 一個月加一條仙魚就穩陣D,否則小就死魚,大則反缸, 所有心血都冇, 努力 唔係人人都能擁有一個咁大的魚缸, 先改善水質吧！ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-04-29 10:11 today my tank's pH become 8.5 previously ~8.0 to 8.2 No3 50ppm No2 10ppm One of the test fish passed away. What's wrong? Should I change water? | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-04-29 10:36 Hi TungTung, 1. test water parameters daily, usually PH will drop when NO2, No3 are high. But your Ph increase, don't know why. 2. Inspect the live rocks, find out any dead creature. Remove it. 3. Changing water seems to be the only way at this moment. 4. Check skimmer, sump and pump. Anything malfunction? Wish you good luck | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-04-29 11:40 東東.. 你用咩tester? 係咪pH meter.. 因為如果係紙.. 咁你個pH就未必準.. 同埋pH係開燈前同燈熄燈先都可以相差好大.. 呢個都可能係至命原因.. 要小心NO3.. 因為我聽過如果NO3一但長期過高.. 咁石同沙都會索左之後以後個NO3好會難降得底. 但我唔肯定係咪真既.. NO2如果係10ppm你都要小心啦.. 因為一般都好小會有讀數架.. 你之前全缸魚死清.. 當然係有古怪啦.. 就算白點都冇死得咁甘.. 不過小小地等你感受下一死清既傷感.. 點都好過滿晒成缸先黎好得多啦.. 係chatroom你同咁多個人吹過水.. 十居其九都係同一句"FOT唔落藥跟本係冇可能". 今次係咪死左條巴里天使.. ? 其實你的QT相信不會有好大作用.. 因為你主缸內的石同沙都係新的.. 佢地都未Q過就入左缸.. 咁你d魚點Q都係假.. 希望你唔好只想著因為一條有病既新魚就搞到其它所有魚死.. 其實魚魚就算係缸內一段時間都除時會有病.. 病菌周圍都係.. 只係睇你d魚同個環境好唔好態佢地先會唔會病發出黎咁姐.. UV燈既使用都列入[url=http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/topic_show.cgi?id=5344&h=1&bpg=1&age=0]HK人常遇飼養技術方面難題[/url]中.. 如果你相信佢可以幫你減小到白點的話.. 咁老坑佢就一定會成排咁用..:P 又其實如果你仲係開頭個setting. 如果有支長管.. 不防就伸入近滴漏位下的一堆石堆中抽d水出黎test下.. 可能你會有所發現.. ~共勉之~ | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2003-04-29 15:00 hi tung tung no2 = 10, take care ar | |
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Posted by: live4fun Posted on: 2003-04-30 02:14 iczfirz wrote: 東東.. 你用咩tester? 係咪pH meter.. 因為如果係紙.. 咁你個pH就未必準.. 同埋pH係開燈前同燈熄燈先都可以相差好大.. 呢個都可能係至命原因.. 要小心NO3.. 因為我聽過如果NO3一但長期過高.. 咁石同沙都會索左之後以後個NO3好會難降得底. 但我唔肯定係咪真既.. NO2如果係10ppm你都要小心啦.. 因為一般都好小會有讀數架.. 你之前全缸魚死清.. 當然係有古怪啦.. 就算白點都冇死得咁甘.. 不過小小地等你感受下一死清既傷感.. 點都好過滿晒成缸先黎好得多啦.. 係chatroom你同咁多個人吹過水.. 十居其九都係同一句"FOT唔落藥跟本係冇可能". 今次係咪死左條巴里天使.. ? 其實你的QT相信不會有好大作用.. 因為你主缸內的石同沙都係新的.. 佢地都未Q過就入左缸.. 咁你d魚點Q都係假.. 希望你唔好只想著因為一條有病既新魚就搞到其它所有魚死.. 其實魚魚就算係缸內一段時間都除時會有病.. 病菌周圍都係.. 只係睇你d魚同個環境好唔好態佢地先會唔會病發出黎咁姐.. UV燈既使用都列入[url=http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/topic_show.cgi?id=5344&h=1&bpg=1&age=0]HK人常遇飼養技術方面難題[/url]中.. 如果你相信佢可以幫你減小到白點的話.. 咁老坑佢就一定會成排咁用..:P 又其實如果你仲係開頭個setting. 如果有支長管.. 不防就伸入近滴漏位下的一堆石堆中抽d水出黎test下.. 可能你會有所發現.. ~共勉之~ pls take a look http://www.ph84.idv.tw/cgi-bin/board/topic.cgi?forum=1&topic=1204&show=0 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-01 19:57 Thanks for the comment and adivce from all fishfriends. Finally I realize its quite difficut for me to reach my target.... to keep large size angels, butterfly together with LR and calms.:!( Can any body help me? -chiller: is redsun good? -pump:? iwaki 50... ok? what is the price -skimmer beside H&S, any good suggestions? -any other necessary equipment? -what is the layout of the sump and the pipe? -what is random current? -is coral easy to keep? many thanks | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2003-05-02 09:28 hi tung tung ! OH ! 2 tank very good ar | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-05-02 09:36 TungTung, Do you mean that you plan to transfer out all the LR, sand and clam to another reef tank? Use plain tank for big fishes then? I think your LR and sand will be excessive for a smaller tank, you may sell some of the sand & LR for return of extra money or second hand equipment. For other questions on equipment, I have no knowledge, can't help, sorry. The last question "Is coral easy to keep?" -- Nothing is easy, depends on how much you know. I suggest you read some books first, it is a very long story about keeping reef and corals. | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-05-02 10:04 我就建議佢賣左d石先.. 因為我估玩魚都要一段時間先知發生咩事.. 如果仲要理多個缸.. 仲弊.. 雖則你話只係開個缸搬左d石走先.. 但問題係你開個咩缸.. ? 四千錢手快快開左個缸搬埋兩支百五火過去照又要諗下加個水冷.. 到時到你知道多d野你又會發覺個缸未如理想.. 不過個個人玩法唔同.. 飼養水族的確係一條好長既路.. 好難有折徑呢.. 既然你己有個缸.. 咪唔好急加魚住.. 最多買幾十條十蚊魚.. 夠你睇一排同上黎學一排先再諗開缸搬石啦.. | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2003-05-02 10:52 東東兄: 睇o左你o既開缸過程咁耐, 我都感受到你o既諗法, 我想以一個新人來說, 最易犯上的大忌就是心急, 但係始終呢樣玩意係要有耐性及忍耐力, 要不然好快就見到後果。 開始玩珊瑚前, 我曾用一個細缸養了幾條海水魚, 用兩魚仔開缸, 過了一個星期見d魚冇乜事就開始忍唔住手。結果在一個晚上, 當我還忙著工作開會, 連接太太的幾個電話, 通知d魚呀、蝦呀陸續在幾小時內相繼升天, 回家後得番兩條仍在喘息, 第二天早上冇哂。 當時我都覺得好灰, 話哂以前養淡水都冇試過咁大獲, 就嘗試再開第二缸, 今次我吸取經驗後就不敢亂加魚o拿, 慢慢咁加等個缸成熟, 結果終於成功, 而家仲學人玩埋珊瑚添, 又過了幾個月了。 以上不可以說是心得, 只是個人經驗, 你問珊瑚難不難養, 答案實在得簡單, 首要的條件是耐性及定力, 器材反而是其次。 | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-05-02 10:52 iczfirz wrote: 我就建議佢賣左d石先.. 因為我估玩魚都要一段時間先知發生咩事.. 如果仲要理多個缸.. 仲弊.. 雖則你話只係開個缸搬左d石走先.. 但問題係你開個咩缸.. ? 四千錢手快快開左個缸搬埋兩支百五火過去照又要諗下加個水冷.. 到時到你知道多d野你又會發覺個缸未如理想.. 不過個個人玩法唔同.. 飼養水族的確係一條好長既路.. 好難有折徑呢.. 既然你己有個缸.. 咪唔好急加魚住.. 最多買幾十條十蚊魚.. 夠你睇一排同上黎學一排先再諗開缸搬石啦.. KK 的提議幾好. 不過如果決定清缸淨養魚, 清走d沙先,以免日後養得好地地又要再翻轉個缸. 養魚真係要睇個人, 如果係我會養20-30 條群居魚仔, 睇佢地一群游來游去. | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2003-05-02 11:42 Ernest wrote: [ KK 的提議幾好. 不過如果決定清缸淨養魚, 清走d沙先,以免日後養得好地地又要再翻轉個缸. 養魚真係要睇個人, 如果係我會養20-30 條群居魚仔, 睇佢地一群游來游去. 你養邊種群居魚仔？ | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-05-03 09:34 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: 你養邊種群居魚仔？ 青魔, Anthias, Cardinalfish + Coral. 不過只係我的願望同幻想. | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2003-05-03 13:54 Ernest wrote: 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: 你養邊種群居魚仔？ 青魔, Anthias, Cardinalfish + Coral. 不過只係我的願望同幻想. 點解係願望同幻想？你未開始養？ 波子群養唔錯ga。:D Anthias, Cardinalfish 係乜魚來的，對英文魚名無頭緒。 | |
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Posted by: nebula Posted on: 2003-05-03 14:33 Anthias（寶石） Cardinalfish （梭羅） | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-05-03 14:47 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: 點解係願望同幻想？你未開始養？ 波子群養唔錯ga。:D 因為我係一個只擁有26吋缸仔的窮人. 而未來20年的收入早已被老虎及化骨龍book 左:( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-05 10:13 TungTung wrote: tank Thanks for the advices. After serious thinkging, I will continue to keep on one tank. I will change the DSB to 2" sand bed. I will keep the LR , also do some DIY modification of the pipe and pump system. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-17 10:51 [color=red][/color]]東東-東山再起:I[color=red][/color] | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-17 10:54 2.5 Asfur. Initially I want to buy a purple moon or whitetail. But I cant find a good one. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-17 10:56 Totally I add 600 new bioball | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-17 10:57 sump 2 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-17 11:01 another iwaki 20 pump to drive the sandbottle and UV | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-17 11:04 lastest full tnk view | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-17 11:06 From another side | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-17 11:09 two week old koran | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-22 17:45 Latest member: two 2.5 inch wong lap chong | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-05-22 17:53 Now my tank have 2 " firebird x2 2 .5" wong lap chong x2 ( hod the fatest eating record--- one second 8-10 pellets!) 2" coral beauty 3" asfur 4" Koran No2 still 0 I will keep this combination till the early June, then.......then my next target is a 5 to 6" angel | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-02 00:02 my queen is back again | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2003-06-02 00:38 而家係馬鞍的好時機，遲D，你想加都唔使諗啊！:}) | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-06-02 01:15 東東... 記得有耐性呀... 要忍手.. 如果唔係加得快時死得快... 你見浪哥一年反幾次缸就知啦:D:}) | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2003-06-02 01:17 唔好攪錯，我從未反過缸。:}) 最多中非典型白點病。 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-02 12:05 iwave wrote: 而家係馬鞍的好時機，遲D，你想加都唔使諗啊！:}) 唔使諗? Can I add a small 馬鞍遲D, after the big angels? You know Ma On is not my favourite fish | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-02 12:08 iczfirz wrote: 東東... 記得有耐性呀... 要忍手.. 如果唔係加得快時死得快... 你見浪哥一年反幾次缸就知啦:D:}) Sorry for the typing mistake... I type July instead of June:D I will be 有耐性.... I will wait 10 to 14 days before buying a new fish.:P | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-06-02 12:10 有時想同做可以一至.. 你想要魚可以去買.. 但好多時想同結果唔係一至.. 即你想有邊d魚同養唔養到就兩回事.. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-04 22:01 iczfirz wrote: 有時想同做可以一至.. 你想要魚可以去買.. 但好多時想同結果唔係一至.. 即你想有邊d魚同養唔養到就兩回事.. Here is my ideal tank---- East's tank I will try my best to reach my objective--- to keep large angel fishes together with LR and sand bed, without adding medicine. I know its tough, but I am ready to accept the challenge. | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-06-04 22:29 東東...:D 我都好想好似佢咁.. 但我知我自己未有可以做到既能力:P | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-06 19:25 iczfirz wrote: 東東...:D 我都好想好似佢咁.. 但我知我自己未有可以做到既能力:P I think time, water quality, skills in selecting new fish are the key points to reach the success. Now I am also trying fresh water bath, methylene blue +/- TDC for every new fishes, before adding to the main tank. So far the result is..............:) | |
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Posted by: Ernest Posted on: 2003-06-09 14:03 TungTung, so what is your plan in maintaining good water quality? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-11 19:36 my new Queen In my main tank for 11days. Quite active and already open month. She also loves dry pellets. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-11 19:46 ZZ: My queen is rather slim at this moment, as she only open her moth at day 4 to 5. But I think she will soon catch up if everything goes fine. Errnest: I think now my tank's water quality should be acceptable. No2 still zero and N03 ~ 5. All the fishes are free from any disease for more than 7 weeks. I have lots of bio and mechanical filtration, and a strong pump to provide a strong water current. ( the water current is really much stronger after the modification of pipe systems.) The main things that worries me is adding new fishes----especially after Sammy's case. The condition of the fish in the FS in recent few weeks are really not good. Everybody should pay special attention la. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-12 23:13 新買七吋藍面 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-12 23:18 :D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-16 01:26 Initially I want to isolate the blue face but I find it looks quite nervous. So I release it to the main tank. As expected, my blue face is hiding inside the live rocks most of the time. Now it is Day 3. Its condition is quite good but only eats "Wong Ah Pah" and refuse to eat other fish foods. Can anybody share their experience of how to teach blue face to open month, with me? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-25 20:00 請問一太后是不是生了頭洞？ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-25 20:02 連下巴都有！ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-25 20:06 條藍面只肯食這樣野一一你地估下是乜傢伙？ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-25 20:07 再來 | |
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Posted by: nebula Posted on: 2003-06-25 23:06 黃芽白？！ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-06-27 13:10 it is not 黃芽白. It is boiled fresh shrimp meat! | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-07-19 11:33 my queen finally passed away:( | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2003-07-19 11:35 Reason ?? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-07-21 08:45 I think it is related to the head wound. The area becomes larger and the bone is exposed. Initially it eats quite well but suddenly lost appetite and..... | |
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Posted by: pcbear Posted on: 2003-07-22 22:20 東東兄: 現在你的魚缸情況如何???? 我都是新仔一名呀!! | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-07-24 13:22 Summary: Currently my tank has: 1. one 2" fire-bird---3.5 month, Initially I have six, but now only one still alive! 2 One. 2.5" Fo Tan -- 3 month, very fat 3. one 2.5 coral beauty--3 month. 4. one 3.5 Arab angel--2.5month 5. one 4" blue line--2.5month 6. two wong lap chong-- growth from 2.5" to 4 " within 2 month. Very hungry in looking. 7. one 7" blue face angel.--- lives in my tank for 6 weeks, intitally very shine and difficult to open month, now quite adapted to the environment. 8. one Kam Ling Hong--- increase size from 2'' to 3.5" within 4 weeks. 9. one 6" gray angel-- just arrive for one week, already open month but initially has some white spots, now lives in the Q-tank 10. One 3" Australian angel, brought for 5 days only, also has some white spot initially but now subsided, starts to eat 黃芽白. 11. one blue leg crab 12. One "kwai" and a small coral. 13. one seastar ph ~8.1 temp 29 to 30C No2 0 NO3 ~25 In the past two and a half months, only one queen angel(lives for 1 month) and one Kam Ling Hong has :~) I find my tank cannot keep any KoB and doctor shrimps...I had four doctor shrimps initially but they disappears one by one in recent weeks, ? eaten by the blue face angel? | |
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Posted by: pcbear Posted on: 2003-07-24 19:33 好多魚呀!!!!! 你有咁大個缸, 一定好美麗!! | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-07 00:56 my new 澳洲仙 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-07 01:03 :P | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-07 01:13 new 灰仙---初初有白點,落完copper後,情況巳改善. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-07 01:17 another side | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-07 01:24 whole tank view | |
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Posted by: 老坑 Posted on: 2003-08-07 01:47 your grey.........:(:( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-07 16:34 I bought this gray for more than 2 weeks. Initially the condition was quite similar to iwave's French--- The surface had a layer of slime and full of white spots. I treated with fresh water bath and TDC but there was no obvious improvement. So I finially use coppe(now day 7)r, the slime and white spt now hasnearly totally disappears but---- some brownish spot appears at the fish line and several fish scales has lossen. Luckily the fish has a good appetite. | |
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Posted by: pcbear Posted on: 2003-08-07 20:33 東東兄: 你的魚好美麗呀!!! 條條都好大好美呀!!!! 你通常去邊度買魚!! 你落什麼牌子的白點藥呀?? 怎樣用的?? | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-08-07 23:16 白點藥來來去去都係銅黎.. 當然都有d聲稱有點厲害又點勁又非含銅... 但信唔信就除你.. 其實好似邊種品牌唔係重點.. 重點在於使用方法同劑量.. 有時落得小冇反應.. 落得多就會反埋缸... 各種魚種對藥反應又唔同... 各個缸用藥有效程度又係唔同... 總之就自己汁生啦.. :I | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-08 13:55 This morning my grey has:~). last night it still ate quite well:(. but this morning................. | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-08-08 14:17 TungTung Sorry to hear the sad news :( My small queen also passed away last month suddenly when it had ate well the night before lar :~) Do you mind telling us where you bought your grey? It seems to me that fish of some of the fish shops at FS has serious problems these days lar... | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-09 10:14 Dear PC bear and Hong: I dont have a particular preference to a particular shop. For example: my asfur was from Happiness, my blueface and the grey was from X Ho and my Australian angel was from XWong My choice is totally depends on the fish condition... which I still needs to learn a lot. This is my first time to use copper in a Q-Tank. The brand of the durg is "Cupramine". My tank has been set up for 5 months--- so far so good la. My old fish's condition is quite good. Now the major problem is adding new fish. | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-08-09 12:31 TungTung Thanks. I also bought fish from various shops previously. But the fiasco which happened this few days in my smaller tank has forced me to re-consider my practice...my father's tank is also facing similar problem these days, though to a lesser extent at this stage. Anyway, thanks for your sharing and wish more updates of your tank soon :) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-10 18:46 康仔 wrote: TungTung Thanks. I also bought fish from various shops previously. But the fiasco which happened this few days in my smaller tank has forced me to re-consider my practice...my father's tank is also facing similar problem these days, though to a lesser extent at this stage. Anyway, thanks for your sharing and wish more updates of your tank soon :) Summer is not a good time to add new fishes, especially the expensive one! | |
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Posted by: pcbear Posted on: 2003-08-10 22:25 東東兄: 你最心愛同最貴的魚是什麼魚?? 點可以養貴魚又唔死呀!? | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-08-11 09:48 Fully agree :}) TungTung wrote: Summer is not a good time to add new fishes, especially the expensive one! | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-12 00:54 pcbear wrote: 東東兄: 你最心愛同最貴的魚是什麼魚?? 點可以養貴魚又唔死呀!? 最心愛--金碟和皇帝---但從來冇係我個魟出現,要到冬天才有機會 最貴的魚--我不會買貴魚. I will limit my burget to $500, at max $750, otherwise只是燒銀子.:( 可以養貴魚又唔死呀---我都好想知.....個人認為一個好的setup(強水流, good biofiltration system and UV are vital for FOT), a good skimmer is less important.:D | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2003-08-12 01:23 皇帝係高溫都應無問題。 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-13 18:57 iwave wrote: 皇帝係高溫都應無問題。 你話我應該加法.灰.紫月or皇帝先? 現時溫度29 to 30C | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2003-08-13 21:57 TungTung wrote: iwave wrote: 皇帝係高溫都應無問題。 你話我應該加法.灰.紫月or皇帝先? 現時溫度29 to 30C 試下好似我咁加魚，初時用大量蒜頭浸佢一輪先放缸，有望無藥地渡過頭幾輪白點。 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-14 13:50 I have some reservation about 蒜頭--- remember the first overturn of my fishtank in Arpil. I trired to use 蒜頭 and hyposalinity in my main tank,but---- even my healthy blue face had:~). I am not blaming to 蒜頭, but you know it's difficult to calculate the doasge. Now I use hyposalinity + TDC + fresh water bath for 15minutes for every new fishes. | |
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Posted by: franng Posted on: 2003-08-14 13:56 我肯定我個缸有白點病菌. 因為缸內D魚間唔中會擦身. 之前見到擦身就立即開蒜汁魚糧比佢地食. 現在KEEP 住每天餵, 已經唔發覺有再擦身. 不過蒜汁我係買KENT 果隻蒜汁, 始終, 自己開好難計得準. 因為太多會影響水質同珊瑚, 太少對魚又冇咩用. 當然啦, 如果魚身上已經長滿白點, 我諗用蒜汁都冇咩效果. 因為D病菌已經植入魚既薄膜之內. 所以最好係趁未有白點前. 做足功夫先, 始終蒜汁只係預防唔係消除. | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2003-08-14 23:12 份量真的好難計，我個用量係9公升水，落6滴水體積的蒜泥。 而且要在no3低，及魚在未出白點前日日用才有效。如果你無QT，要落在主缸，我唸要幾個蒜頭才夠用B) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-15 15:51 I have tried 蒜汁豐年蝦 before, but my fishes dont like it! | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2003-08-15 18:12 TungTung wrote: I have tried 蒜汁豐年蝦 before, but my fishes dont like it! 浸就得，唔駛佢食落肚。 | |
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Posted by: billysmw Posted on: 2003-08-15 18:21 TungTungs 其實都好睇你想落既size！ 但唔計size既話我會認為先落灰、法，跟住紫月，再黎皇帝！ 灰、法最好一齊落！如果唔係就打到扒街！ 我本身有條法仙，落親灰仙都打鑊金！ 已打死2條！呢加第三條都係咁打！隔開一排都無用！ 結果條灰我呢加要分開養！ | |
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Posted by: franng Posted on: 2003-08-16 00:32 TungTung wrote: I have tried 蒜汁豐年蝦 before, but my fishes dont like it! 係米唔夠味? 我之前都試過, 之後買支KENT蒜汁番來， 又開番口。 我諗有可能係淡過頭， 冇咩味。 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-16 12:00 franng wrote: TungTung wrote: I have tried 蒜汁豐年蝦 before, but my fishes dont like it! 係米唔夠味? 我之前都試過, 之後買支KENT蒜汁番來， 又開番口。 我諗有可能係淡過頭， 冇咩味。 The 蒜汁豐年蝦 is factory made, not DIY. BTW, can you post the picture of KENT蒜汁 for me? Thanks | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-16 12:02 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: TungTung wrote: I have tried 蒜汁豐年蝦 before, but my fishes dont like it! 浸就得，唔駛佢食落肚。 You mean water bath with 蒜汁? before adding to the main tank?:O) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-16 12:05 billysmw wrote: TungTungs 其實都好睇你想落既size！ 但唔計size既話我會認為先落灰、法，跟住紫月，再黎皇帝！ 灰、法最好一齊落！如果唔係就打到扒街！ 我本身有條法仙，落親灰仙都打鑊金！ 已打死2條！呢加第三條都係咁打！隔開一排都無用！ 結果條灰我呢加要分開養！ may be I should 灰、法一齊落:8) | |
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Posted by: franng Posted on: 2003-08-16 12:44 oh sorry, 唔係KENT 係SEACHEM, 不過KENT都有。 我用緊SEACHEM果隻相: http://www.ezreef.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=301 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-16 12:58 franng wrote: oh sorry, 唔係KENT 係SEACHEM, 不過KENT都有。 我用緊SEACHEM果隻相: http://www.ezreef.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=301 Wa! $120! seems quite expensive wo. Do your angels like that? I am afraid if my angels not like it... it's waste of money( previously I also use vitachem... but they also dont like it!) | |
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Posted by: franng Posted on: 2003-08-16 13:13 我唔知係米每隻都會食, 但我缸內全部魚都對落O左呢隻蒜汁既糧發哂癲. 藍面, 藍紋追食追到打起上來. 連最細藍圈, 亦因為加O左蒜汁而開口. 不如咁啦, 我試下比D呢隻蒜汁你試下先, 如果真係開口既, 你米買一支囉.. TungTung wrote: franng wrote: oh sorry, 唔係KENT 係SEACHEM, 不過KENT都有。 我用緊SEACHEM果隻相: http://www.ezreef.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=301 Wa! $120! seems quite expensive wo. Do your angels like that? I am afraid if my angels not like it... it's waste of money( previously I also use vitachem... but they also dont like it!) | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2003-08-16 13:44 TungTung wrote: 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: TungTung wrote: I have tried 蒜汁豐年蝦 before, but my fishes dont like it! 浸就得，唔駛佢食落肚。 You mean water bath with 蒜汁? before adding to the main tank?:O) 咁做︰ http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/topic_show.cgi?id=7146&h=1&bpg=1&age=0 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-17 00:08 franng wrote: 我唔知係米每隻都會食, 但我缸內全部魚都對落O左呢隻蒜汁既糧發哂癲. 藍面, 藍紋追食追到打起上來. 連最細藍圈, 亦因為加O左蒜汁而開口. 不如咁啦, 我試下比D呢隻蒜汁你試下先, 如果真係開口既, 你米買一支囉..:{/b} [[color=black]b]多謝你先:) 請問有冇細樽]買?[/b[/color] | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-17 00:15 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: TungTung wrote: 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: TungTung wrote: I have tried 蒜汁豐年蝦 before, but my fishes dont like it! 浸就得，唔駛佢食落肚。 You mean water bath with 蒜汁? before adding to the main tank?:O) 咁做︰ http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/topic_show.cgi?id=7146&h=1&bpg=1&age=0 不如等你個實驗有進一步結果先啦 | |
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Posted by: franng Posted on: 2003-08-17 00:29 TungTung wrote: franng wrote: 我唔知係米每隻都會食, 但我缸內全部魚都對落O左呢隻蒜汁既糧發哂癲. 藍面, 藍紋追食追到打起上來. 連最細藍圈, 亦因為加O左蒜汁而開口. 不如咁啦, 我試下比D呢隻蒜汁你試下先, 如果真係開口既, 你米買一支囉..:{/b} [[color=black]b]多謝你先:) 請問有冇細樽]買?[/b[/color] 冇架, 得咁大支. 我都買二手, 見果位只用3%左右. 好過買百二蚊呀. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-17 00:52 franng wrote: TungTung wrote: franng wrote: 我唔知係米每隻都會食, 但我缸內全部魚都對落O左呢隻蒜汁既糧發哂癲. 藍面, 藍紋追食追到打起上來. 連最細藍圈, 亦因為加O左蒜汁而開口. 不如咁啦, 我試下比D呢隻蒜汁你試下先, 如果真係開口既, 你米買一支囉..:{/b} [[color=black]b]多謝你先:) 請問有冇細樽]買?[/b[/color] 冇架, 得咁大支. 我都買二手, 見果位只用3%左右. 好過買百二蚊呀. 景然有二手買?你珍利害! 我估我的仙都會食,不過要慢慢來,一定唔會好像你D魚對落O左呢隻蒜汁既糧發哂癲.因為佢都食factory made蒜汁豐年蝦,不過不是搶住食 請問你落O左呢隻蒜汁係邊D糧, 是否丰年蝦乾? | |
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Posted by: deechand Posted on: 2003-08-17 09:30 俊兄所說唔食只浸蒜汁,在Kent個樽浸蒜汁說明書出有指示可以這樣做. Kent個樽浸蒜汁,現在100元一支. see this : http://www.kentmarine.com/gx.html | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2003-08-17 13:23 deechand wrote: 俊兄所說唔食只浸蒜汁,在Kent個樽浸蒜汁說明書出有指示可以這樣做. Kent個樽浸蒜汁,現在100元一支. see this : http://www.kentmarine.com/gx.html 呵，原來真係得ga，我未買過，唔知添。 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-18 23:17 new french8D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-18 23:18 already eat pellets la | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-08-18 23:20 法仙..正正正..:D 今次要努力呀.. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-18 23:24 老大藍面見佢落缸,立刻上前收佗地 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-18 23:27 不歡而散 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-18 23:34 新買帝帝,淡水浴後發見有水印,is it normal? | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-08-19 09:53 TungTung Water marks on your Emperor may just be due to that it is not yet adapted to your tank water. However, another cause for water mark is far more troublesome, as it may be a symtome that the fish is infected with bacteria/parasites. My late 3" french also got water mark after 轉水. I initially believed it was due to the first reason but later the water marks became larger and larger and its conditions deteriated rapidly and eventually it died. The bacteria was highly infectious that it also caused the death of all except 3 fishes in my tank :( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-22 00:03 康仔 wrote: TungTung Water marks on your Emperor may just be due to that it is not yet adapted to your tank water. However, another cause for water mark is far more troublesome, as it may be a symtome that the fish is infected with bacteria/parasites. My late 3" french also got water mark after 轉水. I initially believed it was due to the first reason but later the water marks became larger and larger and its conditions deteriated rapidly and eventually it died. The bacteria was highly infectious that it also caused the death of all except 3 fishes in my tank :( Thanks for your information. Luckily the watermarks in my emperor has disappeared. But when the emperor enters the main tank, 佢立即給籃面追弒,完全冇還手的ability. Now I have to isolate the blueface and give some time for the french and blueface to adapt for the envirnoment. | |
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Posted by: LeoTo Posted on: 2003-08-22 09:18 TungTung: where you buy the french and the emperor?????how much are they??? | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-08-22 09:25 TungTung Glad to know that your emperor is fine lar :) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-22 13:41 LeoTo wrote: TungTung: [$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp]where you buy the french and the emperor?????how much are they??? Emperor from YatX $280 French from Happiness. $480 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-22 13:43 TungTung wrote: LeoTo wrote: TungTung: [$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp]where you buy the french and the emperor?????how much are they??? Emperor from YatX (philipines) _ French from Happiness.(brazil) For me, I would pay too much attention from the fish's origin. I will only emphasis on the fish condition. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-08-24 17:40 Latest update: The french and emperor condition ssems to be good. I will do not release the blue face to the main tank | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2003-09-04 20:20 update 吓你個靚缸 photo 啦！ THANK！ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-06 23:41 唉!我個魟又有白點,現全部魚都在Q-tank:( | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-09-06 23:43 東東...快睇下阿P篇輪大米啦... 之後就不如諗下加入埋我地NSB一族啦... 同白點講拜拜:I | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-06 23:47 阿P篇輪大米? | |
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Posted by: 鵬鵬 Posted on: 2003-09-06 23:47 TungTung wrote: 唉!我個魟又有白點,現全部魚都在Q-tank:( 你用呢個方式養魚係煩d架喇:P:P 不如聽zz講轉個方式養把喇:D:D 祝你成功:^):^) | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-09-06 23:49 [url=http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/board_show.cgi?id=41&age=0]P Aqua Note ◇P水族筆記◇[/url] | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-06 23:55 鵬鵬 wrote: TungTung wrote: 唉!我個魟又有白點,現全部魚都在Q-tank:( 你用呢個方式養魚係煩d架喇:P:P 不如聽zz講轉個方式養把喇:D:D 祝你成功:^):^) 等過了這關才算啦:( KK: thank UB) | |
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Posted by: wtlam Posted on: 2003-09-07 12:22 iczfirz wrote: 東東...快睇下阿P篇輪大米啦... 之後就不如諗下加入埋我地NSB一族啦... 同白點講拜拜:I what is NSB? | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-09-07 13:11 NO SAND BED:D | |
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Posted by: pcbear Posted on: 2003-09-07 18:48 tungtung: 你缸魚全部魚仲了白點? 嚴重嗎? 你的醫生缸放在那裡? 可以容立所有魚嗎? 你下一步怎樣做? | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2003-09-07 18:50 你又多手攪過乜黎啊？？B) TungTung wrote: 唉!我個魟又有白點,現全部魚都在Q-tank:( | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-09-08 10:12 TungTung 點解咁失策比白點入左主缸:?) 不過白點小事啫全缸行hypo， 實行一Q將白點清曬咪重簡單 :P | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-09-08 11:08 有底沙... 呢一Q好難做下喎..;) | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-09-08 11:22 KK sir，唔難喎，我個缸都鋪左1寸沙，六月果陣大爆白點落藥都搞唔掂，重整死幾條魚 :(，跟住轉行hypo兩個禮拜D白點唔見哂，跟住行多四個禮拜搞掂，乜點都清曬 :P | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-09-08 11:25 佢d沙好很幼果種黎喎:) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-08 11:34 My koran and australian angel has xx( during the first day of treatmet in K-T. I treated them with copper...seems improving... but still not safe. Only the french start to eat today. | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-09-08 11:39 iczfirz wrote: 佢d沙好很幼果種黎喎:) 我個隻都係好鬼死幼果隻，無問題喎，一樣掂 :) | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-09-08 11:41 TungTung wrote: My koran and australian angel has xx( during the first day of treatmet in K-T. I treated them with copper...seems improving... but still not safe. Only the french start to eat today. TungTung 你D魚既然受唔到銅同K-tank，不如好似我咁全缸hypo把拉，真係掂個喎，又唔會死魚又無手尾跟 :) | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-09-08 11:50 佢好似仲有蚌嘛.. | |
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Posted by: 岩礁園丁 Posted on: 2003-09-08 11:52 hypo 係乜傢伙 ???:8) | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-09-08 11:53 iczfirz wrote: 佢好似仲有蚌嘛.. 抽起隻蚌嘛，救魚要緊... | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-09-08 12:07 丁丁兄，hypo全名係hyposalinity. 做法係一次過或數次以淡水換走部分缸水，而將鹽度降至1.010 (25度攝氏時讀數). 由於無脊椎生物，包括白點蟲無法在這低鹽度下長期生存及繁殖，而硬骨魚則可以 (鯊魚及鰩等軟骨魚不可以)，因此可以此法消滅白點. Hypo若配合銅藥或UV效果更佳. 惟在療程中須密切留意不能讓PH降至低水平，因淡水的PH普遍較低 :) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-08 12:54 康仔 wrote: TungTung 點解咁失策比白點入左主缸:?) 不過白點小事啫全缸行hypo， 實行一Q將白點清曬咪重簡單 :P Its my fault... the emperor initially has few well-definted white spots...but its condition is really good at that time, as well as the appeitie. So I just add RxP and leave it in the main tank. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-08 13:02 康仔 wrote: 丁丁兄，hypo全名係hyposalinity. 做法係一次過或數次以淡水換走部分缸水，而將鹽度降至1.010 (25度攝氏時讀數). 由於無脊椎生物，包括白點蟲無法在這低鹽度下長期生存及繁殖，而硬骨魚則可以 (鯊魚及鰩等軟骨魚不可以)，因此可以此法消滅白點. Hypo若配合銅藥或UV效果更佳. 惟在療程中須密切留意不能讓PH降至低水平，因淡水的PH普遍較低 :) Up to this stage, personally I will just use fresh water bath in all new fishes and I am quite hesitate to use hyposalinity in the main tank. I believe UV will be quite adequate to clear most of the floating ICH, and most of the ICH will die if they cannot find the host. During the first "turn over" of my tank, I just leave the tank empty for two weeks and subsequently all the new fishes are free from ICH. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-08 14:38 康仔: According to P : 低鹽度不能在主缸進行，這會破壞生物過濾系統。 :O) | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-09-08 14:41 TungTung I see...next time remember to ensure that the new fishes are ICH-free before allowing them to enter the main tank. A single ICH is enough for killing off all your fish B) You are right that "most" of the ICH will be killed by the UV alone (if the UV is set properly). The real problem lies in the fact that "most" is just non adequate :( as per the reason in the above paragraph...any surviving ICH will multiply by 100 time in a 28-30 days' cycle, power of which you must have felt previously. I see your purpose of transferring all the fish to the Q-tank...free swimming stage ICH will die after 24 hours if they cannot find a host. So leave the tank empty for 30 days or more (with UV on the better) will be pretty enough for the elimination of ICH. However, you must transfer enough filter media to the Q-tank to ensure that there is enough N-bacteria to filter the nitrogenous wastes produced by your fish or else they will die sooner than being killed by ICH. Copper is surely highly effective in combating ICH. However, it is also highly poisonous to the fish if the dosage is not at the right level. Even you follow the instruction of the manufacturer, you must also have aware that the endurance of each fish to copper is different and a level safe for some fish are already poisonous to others B) I read from your previous posts that you have in fact tried hypo previously. Any particular reason to make you refrain from applying hypo:?) From my own experience, it is the single safest and effective method (I use UV + hypo) to combat ICH. You shall lost all invertibrate in the LR but the N-bacteria would not be harmed by the treatment. Would you mind sharing your reservation in applying hypo? | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-09-08 15:03 TungTung wrote: 康仔: According to P : 低鹽度不能在主缸進行，這會破壞生物過濾系統。 :O) I know I shall not say in this way...but from my own experience of applying hyposalinity, the N-cycle(bio-filtration) will NOT be harmed by hyposalinity. I have monitored the NO2 level of my tanks during hyposalinity and there was no single time of detection of NO2. The only real danger of hypo lies in the risk of the dropping of PH which is easily tackled by adding PH buffer. Hope this may provide more information to you :) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-09 10:00 康仔: Thanks for your advice.Yuor guess is totally correct.;) I had tried hypo with UV in my main tank for once..the result is not good. I know it wouldn't cause a major thread to the biofilatration system. But I think it may has some thread to the tanks's ecosystem. Whether it is a major or minor one i am not sure. In addition, I don't have a pH meter.:( | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-09-09 11:44 TungTung wrote: 康仔: Thanks for your advice.Yuor guess is totally correct.;) I had tried hypo with UV in my main tank for once..the result is not good. I know it wouldn't cause a major thread to the biofilatration system. But I think it may has some thread to the tanks's ecosystem. Whether it is a major or minor one i am not sure. In addition, I don't have a pH meter.:( You are welcome :) Have you lower the salinity enough in your previous trial of hypo:?) It should be around 1.008 at 28C or 1.007 at 29-30C. Reading of 1.010 at temperature higher than 25C is not enough for wipping off the ICH. In my own application of hypo, I did not aware of damage to the tank's ecosystem. No single fish of mine suffers from any disease(apart from the 'rocks' which happened simultaneously with the whitespots and disappeared after the raising of SG) after the treatment and they are all healthy after I have increased back the SG of my tank for one and a half month now. They are alright even I have may the tank so cloudy and dirty for the re-designing of piping and water outlets:O) The two noticeable 'stress' to the fishes was that the growth of them seemed to be retarted during the hypo treatment (My blue face and purple moon Juvs stop changing color then and resumed the progress only after the raising of SG) and the 'rocks' are not so quick to recover. I also noticed that the power and the water flow rate through the UV tube were also very important for the effectiveness of the treatment. At first I just used one 25W UV(run by a 400L/H pump) and the result was also not very good. I then add another 55W UV (run by a 1200L/H pump) and the result was much more noticeable afterwards :) PH testers will suffice for the monitoring of PH for twice a day at the beginning few days. After 3 days or so, the PH will become stable and there should be no need to check it throughout the treatment. I did not used PH meter for my main tank either ;) Enough blah blah blah from me now :P Wish your fishes will all recover soon :I | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-12 10:02 籃紋,澳洲仙,阿拉伯,皇帝放落K-tank後不久便:!( 幸好大佬籃面和二佬法仙還在Q-tank,並恢復condition.本星期未便夠十四天copper treatment. 現主魟只有5條魚...they are in perfect condition and free from ICH 唔知好唔好next week 加魚? | |
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Posted by: deechand Posted on: 2003-09-12 19:57 暫時真係唔好加魚了,等主缸運行兩個月先加魚吧. 我見你D魚一有白點就搞,都係搞死多,你應該問自己係唔係D魚有白點就死更呀?條魚都無一個好環境比佢休養同自瘉,點樣落藥行什麼hyposalinity都無用啦. 緊記魚缸環境越自然(天然)越好,刻意改變是絕對不好. | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-09-12 20:23 清缸養啦;) | |
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Posted by: LeoTo Posted on: 2003-09-12 20:24 put copper in main tank la | |
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Posted by: deechand Posted on: 2003-09-12 21:23 iczfirz 係唔要學你清缸玩"子宮":P | |
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Posted by: pcbear Posted on: 2003-09-12 21:27 大佬籃面和二佬法仙好健康呀!!!!! | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-13 00:01 Up to now,我始終唔想對main tank清魟or add copper.因為我相信白點主要是新魚的問題. 我現想每條新魚都放在Q-tank 1 to 2 星期,到完全冇事才落main tank.我現時個Q-tank 的setup十分simple, 只得一個小精靈,隔日便換水一次.試過keep 魚2 星期, No2, NO3 and temp 都OK. 唔知是否需要further moderify the setup?另外加少少maintank 的環在小精靈傍邊,有冇用? | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-09-13 00:04 諗諗市面果d吸乜吸乜既棉.. 某程度上係好過隔日換水.. 因為換水果下對魚都好有壓力.. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-13 00:08 iczfirz wrote: 諗諗市面果d吸乜吸乜既棉.. 某程度上係好過隔日換水.. 因為換水果下對魚都好有壓力.. 水是from maintank 的8D, should be stable and not impose any 壓力 to fish | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2003-09-13 10:32 TungTung Sorry to hear the sad news :( In my opinion, every new fish should at least be quarantined for a month on it own before entering the main tank as a small number of ICH or some other parasite may attach to the gill or other unseen part of the fish when you buy it and multiply in several weeks' time unnoticed. As suggested by KK, you may buy NH3/NO2 absorber etc to ensure the water quality of a Q-tank of a modest scale, but since your way of adding fish should be quite long (your tank is 66" lar :P), it is best for you to install a full-fetched Q-tank with all necessary equipment like skimmer/ bio-filtration system(UGF/sump depending on the size). A single disaster to the main tank will well pays off the costs of a Q-tank of such scale. As mentioned by deechand, any change to the habitat will create great bio-pressure to the fish. The introduction of a large number of fish to a Q-tank in a short period of time will be a great danger to the fish, no matter how well the Q-tank is equipped, as the bio-system need time to adjust to the increase of fish. That's the reason why I have suggested to put back all the fishes to the main tank and apply hyposalinity and other medical treatment. Concerning the adding of new fish, since as mentioned, a small number of ICH may have already parasited on the appear-to-be-healthy fish/ floating in the tank water in the dormant stage, it is better to wait and observe the situation of the tank for at least a month. Newly introduced fishes are inherited to be weak and proned to the attack of any desease already present in our tank :I | |
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Posted by: pcbear Posted on: 2003-09-13 20:33 tungtung兄: 你現在有幾多魚在主缸? 你的醫生缸是怎樣的? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-15 11:47 pcbear wrote: tungtung兄: 你現在有幾多魚在主缸? 你的醫生缸是怎樣的? I already put back my blue face back to the main tank for 2 days..seem ok. Now my main tank has seven fishes. Wong Kei Chong x2 (5") Kam Ling Hang x1 (4") Coral beauty x1 (3") fire bird x1 Australian angel x1 Now my Q-tank is a primitive and temporary one. Now I am seriously thinking of setting a small but permanent one and move the Wong Kei Chong to the new Q-tank as permanent residents. The new Q-tank would be ~ 32"x 20"'x15" or slightly bigger. is two 小精靈with airpump without any underwater pump enough? Do I need a filterbox like Ehiem? Is it will raise up the water temp to above 30?. Please pose your recomanded setup to me (incluse brand, model, price and shops) to me. PM are also welcome! | |
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Posted by: deechand Posted on: 2003-09-15 20:58 你個大QT最好用濾筒行好D播,唔係換水都有排你換! | |
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Posted by: pcbear Posted on: 2003-09-15 23:23 好了.!! 你有醫生缸就好了. 我都想有一個獨立的細缸, 不過沒有地方放...... 你不如忍下手唔好買魚, (雖然好難, 因為你個缸好大, 如果唔買, 個心會唔舒服), 不過你要記住呀! 羅馬非一日建成的! 你唔好睇魚街的缸好大好多魚, 當你一早去魚店, 你會發覺佢地都死魚無數的.不過佢地日日有魚返, 根本視死魚平常心, 你唔係呀! 你養佢地就好似有養動物的,要有責任的呀!!!!! 忍下手唔好買魚住呀! 看清楚自己個缸先好再考慮加魚呀! 努力! (我是否好長氣? sorrY!) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-17 23:33 taken at tonight | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-17 23:35 大佬籃面---80% recovery. Already put back to main tank for three days... seems free from ICH|) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-17 23:36 my cuurent Q-tank:( 各位大佬:唔該比的setup意見...到底邊一隻濾筒矷? Atman/Eheim..到底[$#20250]唔[$#20250]令水[$#28201]升過了30C? | |
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Posted by: bseeto Posted on: 2003-09-18 11:27 IMHO, 小精靈 is a good choice for q-tank. 1. unlike 濾筒, it keeps the water saturated with oxygen. Remember, the fish is already sick or stressed, oxygen helps. 2. someday, you will not need the q-tank running permanently (you will succeed in keeping healthy fishes, remember?). 小精靈 is easy to be kept in standby mode, just put it in the sump of your main tank. Whenever you buy a new fish, just add your main tank's water to the q-tank, connect the 小精靈 and you are good to go. 3. as for whether it can handle the bio load. Since the q-tank only has a small volume, if you put too many fishes all at once, I think even a 濾筒 can't handle it. So, if all your fishes in the main tank are infected, quarantine the sickest and treat your main tank with low impact method, like garlic or temperature elevation. 4. Keep your good practice of using the main tank's water for water change. 5. put some hiding place in there but don't put LR or sand. Those things absorb medicine. Buy some large PVC pipe and joints. After each use, you can use 1:99 to disinfect the whole tank before putting away for storage. I personally don't think a permanent q-tank is necessary but if you insist, please remember to feed the tank even if there is no fish in it. The bacteria in the filter needs food to survive. Just my 2 cents. BS | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-18 19:28 bseeto: 你特登login 來答我個post...真係多謝晒! 其實我個心都係十五十六:D 因為我都係第一次 用小精靈,佢個包裝係日文,又冇人post用後報告出來.. 唔知最久可唔可以用一個月嗎? | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-09-18 23:16 東東...其實覺得你個缸有乜事就搬d魚出黎搞就幾弊... 主缸咁多水d魚都有事.. 搬d魚入個(細缸)QT就仲弊... 太理想既養魚方法唔係個個都玩得到.. 你再諗諗啦...:I | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2003-09-19 09:46 hi ! still same answer. 1) think about what you want to keep sin (FOT or RT) 2) FOT add drug to main tank is must. 3) if you want keep RT but also want keep much fish. then you should keep in mind don't add too expensive fish. ( when he sick, let him died only ) | |
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Posted by: LeoTo Posted on: 2003-09-19 21:21 東東,主缸落藥啦:( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-09-22 19:47 我現在做緊二個簡單實驗.....很快便有結果. 請大家耐心等候;) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-04 20:48 實驗成功:D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-04 20:50 今晚影的 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-04 20:55 新買的哥迪,北斗. has 白點initiall, after one week treatment with copper已經.完全冇白點:D 落主缸已三日8D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-04 20:57 食得游得 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-04 21:02 最緊要和大佬籃面friend | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-04 21:11 大家估下,我做了怎麼麼? | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2003-10-04 21:29 用1:99，殺哂主缸的白點:D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-07 01:48 幻之終極真姚俊 wrote: 用1:99，殺哂主缸的白點:D 其實我是向你和悟飯偷師,冉加小小自己的idea | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2003-10-07 01:55 即係點呀東東? | |
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Posted by: sammy仔 Posted on: 2003-10-07 09:23 Tung Tung, What is the experiment? What is 小精靈? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-08 00:26 實驗1:將所有新魚都放落臨時Q-tank.用主缸的水,小精靈和環養4to14天.期間用garliac糧開口.如有白點即落銅.當認為魚condition ok時便進行實驗2. 實驗2:我發覺以前條皇帝落缸後,立即給大佬籃面追殺,加上 不適應主缸envirnment,身體抵擋力不足而生白點:!(所以我先發制人,放大佬籃面落沙缸,等新魚都適應主缸envirnment後才put it back. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-08 00:28 sammy仔 wrote: Tung Tung, What is the experiment? What is 小精靈? 小精靈 is a simple filter device that is driven by air pump only | |
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Posted by: 多莉仔 Posted on: 2003-10-08 00:31 Tung Tung 小心你d地版啊:O) 海水落在地版.....地版會好易發黑好煩架!!! | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-08 00:37 多莉仔 wrote: Tung Tung 小心你d地版啊:O) 海水落在地版.....地版會好易發黑好煩架!!! Thanks for your concern. The Q-tank is covered by a piece of plastic. So far the floor is not effected! | |
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Posted by: LeoTo Posted on: 2003-10-08 22:14 how big your QT????? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-10-09 20:16 I have two temporary Q-tanks: The smaller one is about 20" The big one is simply a large plastic box衣箱. | |
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Posted by: target Posted on: 2003-10-09 22:45 tungtung: 你依家total 有幾多條魚呀?? | |
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Posted by: bseeto Posted on: 2003-10-10 16:15 Congrats TungTung, good effort. BS | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2003-11-26 01:23 any news / update ??? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2003-11-27 14:11 later la | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 20:36 很久冇update 了. 今天買的灰佬 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 20:40 as usual,落缸后立即給各大佬圍觀 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 20:41 :) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 20:44 大佬籃面現有7.5吋 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 20:48 8吋的法仙的石還冇退:!( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 20:53 很粗生的北斗:) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 20:55 我的Q-tank | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 20:56 close look | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 21:09 ... | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 21:13 全缸look | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2004-01-10 21:15 似 "全廳碌" 多 d 喎 ~ :) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-10 21:28 ok...真正全缸look:D | |
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Posted by: 阿 ken Posted on: 2004-01-10 22:03 TungTung : 大佬[$#34013]面好[$#38739],我[$#36807]几天也想[$#20080]一[$#26465]回[$#26469].另外你[$#20010]缸好象除了大佬[$#34013]面不[$#21464]外,好象[$#25442]了[$#28857]其它[$#40060]. 在整[$#20010]冰室里,TungTung缸的造型[$#23454]在Good,我的ken缸就是向你偷[$#24072]的:). | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-11 22:53 阿 ken wrote: TungTung : [$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp] [$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp]大佬[$#34013]面好[$#38739],我[$#36807]几天也想[$#20080]一[$#26465]回[$#26469].另外你[$#20010]缸好象除了大佬[$#34013]面不[$#21464]外,好象[$#25442]了[$#28857]其它[$#40060]. [$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp] [$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp]在整[$#20010]冰室里,TungTung缸的造型[$#23454]在Good,我的ken缸就是向你偷[$#24072]的:). 很多謝你欣賞我個缸:I 我都有睇個你的新缸---很漂亮. 請問你養了几耐海水魚? 我這個缸雖然第一條買的仙魚係籃面,不過我現在不讚同你這樣快便買籃面.其實籃面係不適合開缸用的.一來佢對水質有相當的要求(如你個缸n02高的一定xx(),二來佢係一種相當害羞和怕人的魚,很難開口. 我會suggest 你買條5吋白尾開缸. 佢好粗生, 可以抵禦高No2.我個二號缸都是靠佢順利完成開缸:) | |
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Posted by: 阿 ken Posted on: 2004-01-12 21:52 很多謝你欣賞我個缸:I 我都有睇個你的新缸---很漂亮. 請問你養了几耐海水魚? [color=blue]THANKS:),我[$#20859][$#40060]差不多[$#20004]年了,[$#29616]在的是第二[$#20010]缸,[$#21018][$#24320]始[$#20859][$#40060]什么都不懂,死[$#40060]很多:~),自[$#20174]上了"[$#38393]市冰室"后,[$#23398]了[$#35768]多[$#19996]西,能[$#22815][$#35748][$#35782][$#36825]里的朋友很[$#24320]心:).[/color] 我這個缸雖然第一條買的仙魚係籃面,不過我現在不讚同你這樣快便買籃面.其實籃面係不適合開缸用的.一來佢對水質有相當的要求(如你個缸n02高的一定xx(),二來佢係一種相當害羞和怕人的魚,很難開口. [color=blue]我的ken缸no2已到正常水平,本想[$#20080]一[$#26465][$#34013]面[$#36807]年的,听你[$#36825][$#40637][$#35828],可能[$#20250]另[$#36873]"紫月"([$#35768]多人都[$#35828]粗生,我以前[$#36138]便宜[$#20080][$#36807]一[$#26465][$#24102]病的,[$#36807]不了几天就死了):),[/color] 我會suggest 你買條5吋白尾開缸. 佢好粗生, 可以抵禦高No2.我個二號缸都是靠佢順利完成開缸:) [color=blue] [$#35273]得白尾不[$#22815]吸引力,[$#36824]是[$#34013]面和紫月好:D:D[/color] | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2004-01-12 22:03 阿 ken wrote: 藍面和紫月好:D:D[/color] 夠眼光, 有同感 :) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-13 00:08 紫月都ok---不過要買條細條的,否則會打到新加的魚飛起:}) | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2004-01-13 10:42 阿 ken，紫月是粗生，不過十條有九條半見新魚就打，撞着唔合佢眼緣話之佢細自己幾多吋，一樣照炳，仲係要打瓜人果隻B) 我已有兩條紫月因咁既原因俾我放逐咗去隔離缸黎幫手keep住個n-cycle :~) | |
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Posted by: 阿 ken Posted on: 2004-01-18 22:53 Tung Tung: 我前几日已[$#20080]了紫月,[$#29616]在已[$#24320]口吃[$#19996]西:)[$#27809]有看到合适的[$#34013]面,有[$#28857]失望.因怕紫月[$#20859]定后[$#20250]很[$#24694],特意去[$#20080]了一[$#26465]比它大的仙[$#40060]([$#40060][$#38138]的人叫它"歌迪仙")回[$#26469]做大佬.目前大佬只吃生菜([$#20080]之前已[$#35265]它吃生菜).以后有机[$#20250]再[$#35831][$#34013]面回[$#26469]吧. | |
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Posted by: 阿 ken Posted on: 2004-01-18 23:00 康仔: 我已有大佬"歌迪士"[$#38215]住紫月,[$#29616]在紫月好象也甘心做二佬,[$#26080]大佬允[$#35768],不能胡作非[$#20026]了:). | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-19 22:40 歌迪其實都几難開口的,不過如果你果條肯吃生菜的話便應該ok. 祝開缸順利,最好換個好一點的pump and skimmer.否則便要忍手,不要這麼快加魚了 | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2004-01-20 10:26 阿 ken wrote: 康仔: 我已有大佬"歌迪士"[$#38215]住紫月,[$#29616]在紫月好象也甘心做二佬,[$#26080]大佬允[$#35768],不能胡作非[$#20026]了:). oic :) | |
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Posted by: morning picaso Posted on: 2004-01-24 11:01 Tung Tung, Do you really mean Reeflink is so bad in term of qualiity and price or just after sales service? Could their services be affected by this discussion? TungTung wrote: tommy: My tank is rather expensive as it is 訂做 and make in HK. It cost ~$25000, including pump, skimmer, and 老仔和.人工. I order it from reeflink(連嘉) TungTung wrote: tommy: My tank is rather expensive as it is 訂做 and make in HK. It cost ~$25000, including pump, skimmer, and 老仔和.人工. I order it from reeflink(連嘉) Now I would not recommand any fishfirend to make any similar fishtank from reeflink...... They have very poor after-sales service. Once your tank has any technical problem, Boss Lin's face will change 180C... he is just a business and profit-making man. I am really really disappointed to Boss lin 24-8-2003 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-01-26 11:51 [color=blue]Tung Tung, Do you really mean Reeflink is so bad in term of qualiity and price or just after sales service? Could their services be affected by this discussion? [/color] Qualtiy: the qualtiy of my 66"tank is acceptable, at least it still looks 90% new after 11months. Price: I wouldn't say their price is expensive. But I would say for such price, I would expect much better after-sales service! Could their services be affected by this discussion: I dont know, as I never visit this shop afterwards. But you can refer to some comments posted by some of the fishfriends in this web. . | |
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Posted by: 阿 ken Posted on: 2004-02-01 21:40 TungTung: 我的歌迪[$#29616]在吃得游得,[$#26242][$#26102][$#35753]它做大佬,以后再[$#20080][$#34013]面回[$#26469].:) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-02-03 00:31 阿 ken wrote: TungTung: [$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp][$nbsp]我的歌迪[$#29616]在吃得游得,[$#26242][$#26102][$#35753]它做大佬,以后再[$#20080][$#34013]面回[$#26469].:) 我都曾經有過一條6吋歌迪,不過養了一個月便拜拜了xx( 下次有機會我都會買番條,不過會買條大條(9to 10吋),因大條歌迪游水才會很好看. 不過看來要起碼一頭半月才可加新魚----條灰仙release落主缸后便立即給籃面和法仙輪流追殺,現在隔住了老法才"面"強應付到籃面的挑戰,看來下一步要隔開條籃面放條法出來,讓條灰適應下條法追佢,才可三條一齊游:}) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-18 12:18 很久冇update了.... 我做夢都估唔到,一update便係這個缸的的終極"偏" | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-18 12:19 今次真係一缸舂水向東流:~) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-18 12:20 仲流到全屋木地板都係:( | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2004-09-18 12:26 嘩:O) TungTung初頭睇以為你個地板果D係水晶地蠟，原來係水B) 呢獲真係大O樂:(有咩要幫手就出聲拉:~) | |
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Posted by: Dickson Posted on: 2004-09-18 15:09 嘩，咁大劑！:(:( | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2004-09-18 15:21 睇黎你老虎會頒禁令唔俾再養魚囉B) | |
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Posted by: 白熊 Posted on: 2004-09-18 16:05 嘩~大佬東, 講清楚D乜頭乜路, 未搞到我晚晚發惡夢囉......怕~怕~ | |
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Posted by: cmtsui Posted on: 2004-09-18 16:07 惡夢.. | |
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Posted by: alienwalker Posted on: 2004-09-18 16:52 嘩!! 大洪水!! 嚴重... 你的缸幾多分片厚?及D玻璃膠底部沒有加橫??,壓力很大,長期來講D玻璃膠會變質...軟化... :( | |
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Posted by: mrfong Posted on: 2004-09-19 00:50 alienwalker wrote: 嘩!! 大洪水!! 嚴重... 你的缸幾多分片厚?及D玻璃膠底部沒有加橫??,壓力很大,長期來講D玻璃膠會變質...軟化... :( [color=red]嘩[/color]!! 驚驚呀....xx( 痲要幾年換一次缸....?:( | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2004-09-19 03:57 :O):O):O):O):O) 好驚呀! 我晚晚都好驚流到全屋都係! 晚上一 有 Raining 就以為我個缸 Glass crack. Get up SEE SEE LOOK LOOK CHECK CHECK! TROUBLE!!!xx( :?)你的缸底玻璃幾多分厚:?) Good Luck to you! Don't give up. | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2004-09-19 03:59 morning picaso wrote: Tung Tung, Do you really mean Reeflink is so bad in term of qualiity and price or just after sales service? Could their services be affected by this discussion? TungTung wrote: tommy: My tank is rather expensive as it is 訂做 and make in HK. It cost ~$25000, including pump, skimmer, and 老仔和.人工. I order it from reeflink(連嘉) TungTung wrote: tommy: My tank is rather expensive as it is 訂做 and make in HK. It cost ~$25000, including pump, skimmer, and 老仔和.人工. I order it from reeflink(連嘉) Now I would not recommand any fishfirend to make any similar fishtank from reeflink...... They have very poor after-sales service. Once your tank has any technical problem, Boss Lin's face will change 180C... he is just a business and profit-making man. I am really really disappointed to Boss lin 24-8-2003 Proof to be really ------- BAD BAD BAD :!(:!(:!( | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2004-09-19 04:00 morning picaso wrote: Tung Tung, Do you really mean Reeflink is so bad in term of qualiity and price or just after sales service? Could their services be affected by this discussion? TungTung wrote: tommy: My tank is rather expensive as it is 訂做 and make in HK. It cost ~$25000, including pump, skimmer, and 老仔和.人工. I order it from reeflink(連嘉) TungTung wrote: tommy: My tank is rather expensive as it is 訂做 and make in HK. It cost ~$25000, including pump, skimmer, and 老仔和.人工. I order it from reeflink(連嘉) Now I would not recommand any fishfirend to make any similar fishtank from reeflink...... They have very poor after-sales service. Once your tank has any technical problem, Boss Lin's face will change 180C... he is just a business and profit-making man. I am really really disappointed to Boss lin 24-8-2003 :!(:!(:!(Proof to be really ------- BAD BAD BAD :!(:!(:!( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-19 07:17 alienwalker wrote: 嘩!! 大洪水!! 嚴重... 你的缸幾多分片厚?及D玻璃膠底部沒有加橫??,壓力很大,長期來講D玻璃膠會變質...軟化... :( 玻璃膠會變質...軟化... ? 這個缸只開了缸一年半,冇可能這麼快.......除非的玻璃膠是膺品:!( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-19 07:29 白熊 wrote: 嘩~大佬東, 講清楚D乜頭乜路, 未搞到我晚晚發惡夢囉......怕~怕~ 我都好想知 唯一一點肯定的是.....這是意外! 個缸用四分玻璃,水高26"(水位給一般30",還要低;加上made in HK,價錢特高);但係唔夠二年便玩完:!( 你說唔係意外(意料之外),我真的想唔到另外一個答案了:( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-19 07:39 驗屍報告: 缸內冇明顯crack,水應在底部漏出. 個缸全用四分玻璃,冇底橫:~) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-19 07:40 :( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-19 07:44 康仔 wrote: 嘩:O) TungTung初頭睇以為你個地板果D係水晶地蠟，原來係水B) 呢獲真係大O樂:(有咩要幫手就出聲拉:~) 如果水晶地蠟有"禁令"就好了. 多謝你先:) | |
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Posted by: GTI Posted on: 2004-09-19 08:24 東東兄......睇完你的相真係有D驚，家居保險有冇得保？ | |
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Posted by: BoB Posted on: 2004-09-19 09:03 嘩....真係好驚:O),點會咁架?????? | |
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Posted by: 岩礁園丁 Posted on: 2004-09-19 10:55 我朋友個 60 缸, 無底橫, 淨得頂一橫, 都過左十年囉... 造魚缸, 有冇底橫唔重要, 最重要係黐之前, 要保證玻璃落膠的位置, 絕對乾淨. :!( 求撚其其的玻璃佬:!(, 累人不淺.:!( | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2004-09-19 11:29 岩礁園丁 wrote: 我朋友個 60 缸, 無底橫, 淨得頂一橫, 都過左十年囉... 造魚缸, 有冇底橫唔重要, 最重要係黐之前, 要保證玻璃落膠的位置, 絕對乾淨. :!( 求撚其其的玻璃佬:!(, 累人不淺.:!( 新缸要要等數日先落得水.. 我係卡奇造缸.. 佢每個新缸都會有張紙貼係度話幾時先落得水.. 你個缸當時運得急唔急.. 有冇等足日子先落水? | |
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Posted by: waterman Posted on: 2004-09-19 12:21 連x係幾賤。 我係佢度買過一套acardia 4呎t5ho$1xxx, 用左九個月左右突然令到d電箱跳。 咁咪拎返比佢整, 電話上講無單都得。 上到去, 個老野話見到我個三腳頭唔係佢地賣架喎, 但係我無改過野架。:!( 好彩佢有條靚講唔係一定架, 叫我留低一百幾十按金比佢幫我修理。 咁姐係無保養姐, 不過無計。 一個星期後我去取, 佢話只係燒左支管收我百幾連人工, 頂:~)。 最慘係返到屋企先睇到個燈既case變形, 令個防水膠片都走位, 又頂佢。 之後, 我都無再上去laxx( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-19 12:21 iczfirz wrote: 岩礁園丁 wrote: 我朋友個 60 缸, 無底橫, 淨得頂一橫, 都過左十年囉... 造魚缸, 有冇底橫唔重要, 最重要係黐之前, 要保證玻璃落膠的位置, 絕對乾淨. :!( 求撚其其的玻璃佬:!(, 累人不淺.:!( 新缸要要等數日先落得水.. 我係卡奇造缸.. 佢每個新缸都會有張紙貼係度話幾時先落得水.. 你個缸當時運得急唔急.. 有冇等足日子先落水? 個缸等了at least 三星期才落水, set 缸和喉給連x一手包起 | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2004-09-19 12:30 TungTung wrote: iczfirz wrote: 岩礁園丁 wrote: 我朋友個 60 缸, 無底橫, 淨得頂一橫, 都過左十年囉... 造魚缸, 有冇底橫唔重要, 最重要係黐之前, 要保證玻璃落膠的位置, 絕對乾淨. :!( 求撚其其的玻璃佬:!(, 累人不淺.:!( 新缸要要等數日先落得水.. 我係卡奇造缸.. 佢每個新缸都會有張紙貼係度話幾時先落得水.. 你個缸當時運得急唔急.. 有冇等足日子先落水? 個缸等了at least 三星期才落水, set 缸和喉給連x一手包起 等左三個星期先落水.. 應冇問題架喎.. | |
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Posted by: waterman Posted on: 2004-09-19 12:36 上年開60吋缸之前都有去連x到睇過, 但要成二萬至三萬所以無做度。 後來去元朗匯x到做, 個缸就6400 包送貨, 其他器材自己買, 埋單12000多d。 我個缸都係30吋高26吋水位, 無底[$#25285]。 用兩塊底片, 三分同四分, 加埋都有7分既。木樻有中閘木板, 所以沙缸得30吋, 但感覺上安全d。 [color=blue]依家都係最怕我個仔攪野, 識行識走又掉野, 真係好驚:([/color] | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-19 12:40 白熊 wrote: 嘩~大佬東, 講清楚D乜頭乜路, 未搞到我晚晚發惡夢囉......怕~怕~ 我初時都怕~怕........個東缸二號水深38吋;這個才得26吋;足足淺一半,如果說爆机會二號一定會大好多. 不過我看完這張相后,再加上zz的工力,真係信心的保正:) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-19 12:42 waterman wrote: 上年開60吋缸之前都有去連x到睇過, 但要成二萬至三萬所以無做度。 後來去元朗匯x到做, 個缸就6400 包送貨, 其他器材自己買, 埋單12000多d。 我個缸都係30吋高26吋水位, 無底[$#25285]。 用兩塊底片, 三分同四分, 加埋都有7分既。木樻有中閘木板, 所以沙缸得30吋, 但感覺上安全d。 [color=blue]依家都係最怕我個仔攪野, 識行識走又掉野, 真係好驚:([/color] 快點買保險啦 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-19 12:46 GTI wrote: 東東兄......睇完你的相真係有D驚，家居保險有冇得保？ 唔係間間都有得保 I am under the coverage og ING.保金會多少少,不過都唔夠i少你十分之一個橙:}).佢地仲上門影低個魚缸的玉照,用來keep record 回頂端 | |
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Posted by: waterman Posted on: 2004-09-19 12:50 TungTung wrote: GTI wrote: 東東兄......睇完你的相真係有D驚，家居保險有冇得保？ 唔係間間都有得保 I am under the coverage og ING.保金會多少少,不過都唔夠i少你十分之一個橙:}).佢地仲上門影低個魚缸的玉照,用來keep record 回頂端 E, 真係要問返個agent先, 唔保就換la:I thank you, tung. | |
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Posted by: nebula Posted on: 2004-09-19 13:10 睇完今次東東的紀錄，相信大家都應該汲取經驗，考慮整份家居保險，因為浸自已屋企未算大鑊，如果影響到電梯或其他公共設施就仲麻煩，當然詳細條款就要問番agent了。 祝安！ | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2004-09-19 13:24 nebula wrote: 睇完今次東東的紀錄，相信大家都應該汲取經驗，考慮整份家居保險，因為浸自已屋企未算大鑊，如果影響到電梯或其他公共設施就仲麻煩，當然詳細條款就要問番agent了。 祝安！ 細路仔玩搖搖唔覺意打爆左缸呢d人為野包唔包架? | |
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Posted by: nebula Posted on: 2004-09-19 14:42 細路仔玩搖搖唔覺意打爆左缸呢d人為野包唔包架? 點解一定要玩搖搖？可能你個仔鍾意玩煮飯仔呢！ | |
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Posted by: GTI Posted on: 2004-09-19 16:19 TungTung wrote: GTI wrote: 東東兄......睇完你的相真係有D驚，家居保險有冇得保？ 唔係間間都有得保 I am under the coverage og ING.保金會多少少,不過都唔夠i少你十分之一個橙:}).佢地仲上門影低個魚缸的玉照,用來keep record 我為佐個缸買佐家居保險，明日要打電話俾agent問清楚先得。 | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2004-09-20 00:11 Where are the Fishes ? | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2004-09-20 09:01 嘩東東大哥, 甘大xx( 睇完好驚:(, 仲想轉細缸 :~) | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2004-09-20 09:19 nebula wrote: 睇完今次東東的紀錄，相信大家都應該汲取經驗，考慮整份家居保險，因為浸自已屋企未算大鑊，如果影響到電梯或其他公共設施就仲麻煩，當然詳細條款就要問番agent了。 祝安！ 我朋友個老豆幾十年前養魚爆缸, 真係浸左部lift, 唔知賠左幾多。 | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2004-09-20 09:40 我屋企無咩好沉, 我都怕沉屋外, 個大門得一吋高咋好易流出去 :~) | |
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Posted by: 鵬鵬 Posted on: 2004-09-20 10:32 nebula wrote: 睇完今次東東的紀錄，相信大家都應該汲取經驗，考慮整份家居保險，因為浸自已屋企未算大鑊，如果影響到電梯或其他公共設施就仲麻煩，當然詳細條款就要問番agent了。 祝安！ 我買左幾年見好似哂錢取消左份保險！ 加下點算呀？:(:( | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2004-09-20 12:35 PP-HK wrote: nebula wrote: 睇完今次東東的紀錄，相信大家都應該汲取經驗，考慮整份家居保險，因為浸自已屋企未算大鑊，如果影響到電梯或其他公共設施就仲麻煩，當然詳細條款就要問番agent了。 祝安！ 我朋友個老豆幾十年前養魚爆缸, 真係浸左部lift, 唔知賠左幾多。 家居保係咪包埋屋外既野先? | |
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Posted by: alienwalker Posted on: 2004-09-20 12:55 愈大缸愈驚...半夜三更..愈心掛掛.... | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2004-09-20 13:14 心驚驚,大家有無家屋保資料呀? 我個缸都700L 架:~) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-20 21:49 iczfirz wrote: PP-HK wrote: nebula wrote: 睇完今次東東的紀錄，相信大家都應該汲取經驗，考慮整份家居保險，因為浸自已屋企未算大鑊，如果影響到電梯或其他公共設施就仲麻煩，當然詳細條款就要問番agent了。 祝安！ 我朋友個老豆幾十年前養魚爆缸, 真係浸左部lift, 唔知賠左幾多。 家居保係咪包埋屋外既野先? 一般都有第三保;不過要是意外才有得保 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-20 21:51 Breeder wrote: Where are the Fishes ? 乙經全轉到另一個缸了 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-20 21:54 iczfirz wrote: nebula wrote: 睇完今次東東的紀錄，相信大家都應該汲取經驗，考慮整份家居保險，因為浸自已屋企未算大鑊，如果影響到電梯或其他公共設施就仲麻煩，當然詳細條款就要問番agent了。 祝安！ 細路仔玩搖搖唔覺意打爆左缸呢d人為野包唔包架? 就是這樣才有得賠:}) Natural wear and tear 係冇得賠的:!( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-20 21:58 鵬鵬 wrote: nebula wrote: 睇完今次東東的紀錄，相信大家都應該汲取經驗，考慮整份家居保險，因為浸自已屋企未算大鑊，如果影響到電梯或其他公共設施就仲麻煩，當然詳細條款就要問番agent了。 祝安！ 我買左幾年見好似哂錢取消左份保險！ 加下點算呀？:(:( 你個底禁黑,有冇保險肯受你玩啊:}) | |
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Posted by: waterman Posted on: 2004-09-20 22:03 TungTung wrote: 就是這樣才有得賠:}) Natural wear and tear 係冇得賠的:!( 咁你個缸算係咩原因而有得賠呢? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-09-21 07:05 waterman wrote: TungTung wrote: 就是這樣才有得賠:}) Natural wear and tear 係冇得賠的:!( 咁你個缸算係咩原因而有得賠呢? 因正在索償中,所以詳情不方便說 sorry for that | |
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Posted by: 老坑 Posted on: 2004-10-26 21:04 hi....any update photo to share?.... | |
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Posted by: EdwardChu Posted on: 2004-10-26 22:44 TungTung wrote: iczfirz wrote: PP-HK wrote: nebula wrote: 睇完今次東東的紀錄，相信大家都應該汲取經驗，考慮整份家居保險，因為浸自已屋企未算大鑊，如果影響到電梯或其他公共設施就仲麻煩，當然詳細條款就要問番agent了。 祝安！ 我朋友個老豆幾十年前養魚爆缸, 真係浸左部lift, 唔知賠左幾多。 家居保係咪包埋屋外既野先? 一般都有第三保;不過要是意外才有得保 今次等我回答喇;) 家居保險多數有第三者cover, 不過所有第三者只會在疏忽時才會賠償給第三者之財物和人身。 家中的damage會在Section 1 賠償，因大多數家居保會賠償因意外引至的finance loss. 東東兄：因沒有看你的post, 所以現才回覆，不過有雖要可找本人，可不可以幫手:D | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2004-11-27 00:59 東東.. 兩個多月囉... 有冇咩update呀? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-11-27 22:46 iczfirz wrote: 東東.. 兩個多月囉... 有冇咩update呀? 舊缸乙經byebye了:( 在這多謝大家的支持 | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2004-11-27 22:49 TungTung wrote: iczfirz wrote: 東東.. 兩個多月囉... 有冇咩update呀? 舊缸乙經byebye了:( 在這多謝大家的支持 意思即係會有新缸?8D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2004-12-03 22:34 我個主力,一早就放了在"一個自己有份參與製造的魚缸(東缸二號)"啦:P | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-10-19 23:24 唉!時間過的真快,一年又沖沖地流走了. 剛剛重新再翻看這個tanklog 1次,實在百般姿味在心頭....特別係有些出過post的魚友.現在乙冇養魚了 我實在很喜歡這個三面缸...但很可惜...因為環境的轉變....未來我都唔會再有三面缸了 | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2005-10-19 23:57 乜得你咁感觸呀? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-10-20 00:07 iczfirz wrote: 乜得你咁感觸呀? 你再重新從頭看過你自己個tanklog1次,你就明啦:}) | |
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Posted by: 岩礁園丁 Posted on: 2005-10-20 00:34 缸無百日紅, 天下無不散之筵席. 開缸有時, 摺缸有時也. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-10-23 08:33 缸無百日紅, 天下無不散之筵席. 開缸有時, 摺缸有時也. 洽似一缸舂水向東流:~) | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2005-10-25 04:44 TungTung wrote: 缸無百日紅, 天下無不散之筵席. 開缸有時, 摺缸有時也. 洽似一缸舂水向東流:~) 咦 Tung Tung 兄，乜你唔係己經開個新缸咩？有冇相睇？以你既經驗，再開缸實掂過碌庶 :D 一定比舊缸正好多！:) | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2005-10-25 05:01 TungTung wrote: iczfirz wrote: 乜得你咁感觸呀? 你再重新從頭看過你自己個tanklog1次,你就明啦:}) 時間過得真係快咁又兩年半，唉、我都去番我個 tanklog 從第一天看起 .......... 正如我初時所講，要多謝尼個網有個tanklog，總有一天都會成為我美好的回憶錄！ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-10-26 20:05 Breeder wrote: TungTung wrote: 缸無百日紅, 天下無不散之筵席. 開缸有時, 摺缸有時也. 洽似一缸舂水向東流:~) 咦 Tung Tung 兄，乜你唔係己經開個新缸咩？有冇相睇？以你既經驗，再開缸實掂過碌庶 :D 一定比舊缸正好多！:) 我個魚缸,比起你個巨缸or Hursan兄個新缸，簡直係小巫見大巫，難登大雅之堂......不看也罷:D | |
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Posted by: bluefacelover Posted on: 2005-11-04 10:58 東東兄: 我剛剛從頭看過你自己個tanklog1次,你個缸實在很美!爆缸真是太可惜了! 我都好想看看的你的個新缸;相信不少魚友都想看 把你的個新缸貼上來...好嗎? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-05 10:40 bluefacelover兄 誠蒙錯愛 請多多指教 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-05 10:44 新居一角 原本打算做番三面缸....但因太危險而放棄 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-05 10:52 來水去水 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-05 10:59 來水去水和水冷喉都會經天花去工人房個toilet | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-05 11:17 都几大工程:D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-05 11:22 工人房內 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-05 11:24 來水喉 | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2005-11-05 11:51 Tung Tung你又係搬屋咁橋，我又係搞緊:P 原本都諗住好似你咁駁喉去廳度，不過中間經厨房出廳度有條呎幾粗既橫梁xx( 無得搞:~) 越睇越羨慕添:(:(:( | |
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Posted by: 岩礁園丁 Posted on: 2005-11-05 12:37 TungTung wrote: 來水去水和水冷喉都會經天花去工人房個toilet 東東..不打算用分體水冷 ? | |
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Posted by: 岩礁園丁 Posted on: 2005-11-05 12:43 康仔 wrote: Tung Tung你又係搬屋咁橋，我又係搞緊:P 原本都諗住好似你咁駁喉去廳度，不過中間經厨房出廳度有條呎幾粗既橫梁xx( 無得搞:~) 越睇越羨慕添:(:(:( 尺幾粗的水泥鋼筋結構, 一樣可以將它鑽通.. 方法是分開鑽, 即一喉一洞, 區區三兩個吋來二吋的小洞, 對樓宇結構, 不會影響, 只是工程大了一點而已. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-06 10:21 岩礁園丁 wrote: 康仔 wrote: Tung Tung你又係搬屋咁橋，我又係搞緊:P 原本都諗住好似你咁駁喉去廳度，不過中間經厨房出廳度有條呎幾粗既橫梁xx( 無得搞:~) 越睇越羨慕添:(:(:( 尺幾粗的水泥鋼筋結構, 一樣可以將它鑽通.. 方法是分開鑽, 即一喉一洞, 區區三兩個吋來二吋的小洞, 對樓宇結構, 不會影響, 只是工程大了一點而已. 康仔: 新缸有几大?:P 你可以考慮做假天花或燈曹.便可以把所有喉收埋8D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-06 11:01 岩礁園丁 wrote: TungTung wrote: 來水去水和水冷喉都會經天花去工人房個toilet 東東..不打算用分體水冷 ? 丁丁: 我係用分體水冷.不過管理處唔准掛部分體到室外.只好放去工人房個toilet .另外加把抽氣線把熱風排出.效果都滿意 | |
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Posted by: BOR Posted on: 2005-11-06 11:04 東東 分體點放呀？有冇相睇？ 因我都想裝，又係要放在室內。 | |
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Posted by: lyon Posted on: 2005-11-06 11:08 東東, 您是否找安保工程造裝修? 我可能曾經參觀過您的新居(CH). 我是您的鄰居, 有機會見您的新缸? Tkx | |
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Posted by: BOR Posted on: 2005-11-06 11:14 TungTung wrote: tank 乜唔係搵坤記工程咩？ 定係俊樂工程呢？ | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2005-11-08 12:29 TungTung wrote: 岩礁園丁 wrote: 尺幾粗的水泥鋼筋結構, 一樣可以將它鑽通.. 方法是分開鑽, 即一喉一洞, 區區三兩個吋來二吋的小洞, 對樓宇結構, 不會影響, 只是工程大了一點而已. 康仔: 新缸有几大?:P 你可以考慮做假天花或燈曹.便可以把所有喉收埋8D 丁丁兄：尺幾粗水泥鋼筋工程太大，要再諗諗先... Tung Tung：諗住用番舊缸，不過換過缸柜match番新屋design :) 若解決到條樑個問題，就一於做假天花把所有喉收埋 :D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-09 20:32 BOR wrote: 東東 分體點放呀？有冇相睇？ 因我都想裝，又係要放在室內。 把工人房門關埋.打開窗和開抽氣机....效果都ok | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-09 20:34 TungTung wrote: BOR wrote: 東東 分體點放呀？有冇相睇？ 因我都想裝，又係要放在室內。 把工人房門關埋.打開窗和開抽氣机....效果都ok:P | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-09 20:44 lyon wrote: 東東, 您是否找安保工程造裝修? 我可能曾經參觀過您的新居(CH). 我是您的鄰居, 有機會見您的新缸? Tkx lyon: 你都有養魚? 弟時有机會大家可以一齊研究下 不過我技術有限.只能養到粗生的仙魚.冇任何精品.你到時唔好失望便好了 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-09 20:51 BOR wrote: TungTung wrote: tank 乜唔係搵坤記工程咩？ 定係俊樂工程呢？ 我係找xx工程的:}) 其實找誰都唔係好重要. 最重要係自己知道自己要求什麼和點做 千萬唔好像第一個缸....洗了很多錢;卻換來一肚氣:!( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-09 20:56 :I | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-09 21:14 :):):) | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2005-11-10 03:38 "最重要係自己知道自己要求什麼和點做 " :^) 咁就掂！ :D :D :D 上次差少少，今次一定掂，最少 100 分 :D 祈代著你的靚靚新缸相片 ，支持、支持、支持！ :P | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-10 22:27 Breeder wrote: "最重要係自己知道自己要求什麼和點做 " :^) 咁就掂！ :D :D :D 上次差少少，今次一定掂，最少 100 分 :D 祈代著你的靚靚新缸相片 ，支持、支持、支持！ :P 獻醜了:I | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-10 22:30 沙缸 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-10 22:32 :):) | |
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Posted by: bluefacelover Posted on: 2005-11-11 13:16 Very beatiful big tank! It merges nicely with your new home! How amazing! | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-11 22:11 搗左好耐 今天終於set好個skimmer! :P | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-11 22:14 開了几個鐘.效果麻麻:!( 水位ok嗎? | |
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Posted by: 間歇性 Posted on: 2005-11-12 00:27 請問之前做個缸係點爆架，人為定做缸問題？ 因朋友早幾日前去連嘉問價，好似唔係好專業。 | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2005-11-12 02:43 TungTung wrote: 開了几個鐘.效果麻麻:!( 水位ok嗎? :O) 咁大碌火箭炮！:O) 明智之選！ 水位好似太高，打到都會好稀！比我就會把水位教到收集杯底一吋至吋半！ 新缸係打唔到喎！起初成個月先打得兩吋出黎仲係稀野，而家一個星期打到吋半廿四味！ 我覺得 skimmer 好重要，開缸時得一支，我而家加到有三支，早 d 有咁大碌火箭炮我都會買！而家冇位放！:( | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2005-11-12 02:52 多口講句：缸頂空開高 d 好，放了燈後會頂手頂腳，如用鹵素燈就更頂！仲要注意倒汗水，缸頂要通風，小心倒汗水從頂企身板同玻璃中間滴落地 (我初時都賴過大鑊)！:D 沙缸加條去水加個押制接到排水渠，以後換水 un un 腳！ | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2005-11-12 03:33 間歇性 wrote: 請問之前做個缸係點爆架，人為定做缸問題？ 因朋友早幾日前去連嘉問價，好似唔係好專業。 去川X問下，以前朋友做過一個 4 尺都 ok！ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-12 21:47 間歇性 wrote: 請問之前做個缸係點爆架，人為定做缸問題？ 因朋友早幾日前去連嘉問價，好似唔係好專業。 佢的所謂香港制做的魚缸...得一個優點.就是價錢貴過人:}) 得一塊底玻璃.冇底擔...所以個缸水深得26吋都會爆 不過這是三年前的情況.佢現時情況如可.有冇改善.我真係唔知 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-12 21:50 Breeder wrote: TungTung wrote: 開了几個鐘.效果麻麻:!( 水位ok嗎? :O) 咁大碌火箭炮！:O) 明智之選！ 水位好似太高，打到都會好稀！比我就會把水位教到收集杯底一吋至吋半！ 新缸係打唔到喎！起初成個月先打得兩吋出黎仲係稀野，而家一個星期打到吋半廿四味！ 我覺得 skimmer 好重要，開缸時得一支，我而家加到有三支，早 d 有咁大碌火箭炮我都會買！而家冇位放！:( 你用邊款skimmer?真想到你府上見識下你個巨缸:) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-12 21:57 Breeder wrote: 多口講句：缸頂有開高 d 好，放了燈後會頂手頂腳，如用鹵素燈就更頂！仲要注意倒汗水，缸頂要通風，小心倒汗水從頂企身板同玻璃中間滴落地 (我初時都賴過大鑊)！:D 沙缸加條去水加個押制接到排水渠，以後換水 un un 腳！ -缸頂有3呎高..加了鹵素燈都o -我剛令了1個水制和1個押制.un un 腳便換完水 了:P | |
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Posted by: 間歇性 Posted on: 2005-11-12 22:32 TungTung wrote: 間歇性 wrote: 請問之前做個缸係點爆架，人為定做缸問題？ 因朋友早幾日前去連嘉問價，好似唔係好專業。 佢的所謂香港制做的魚缸...得一個優點.就是價錢貴過人:}) 得一塊底玻璃.冇底擔...所以個缸水深得26吋都會爆 不過這是三年前的情況.佢現時情況如可.有冇改善.我真係唔知 繼樓上舖續間關門，見生龍對面條橫行開左間魚店。 主持人係連嘉人開，好似叫四哥。 唔知係開分店或好似師奶乎借壳上市？ | |
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Posted by: 間歇性 Posted on: 2005-11-13 11:03 睇番你之前post，真係好慘。 又話係你最強後盾，咁現在新缸係咪都有後盾呀 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-14 01:34 間歇性 wrote: 睇番你之前post，真係好慘。 又話係你最強後盾，咁現在新缸係咪都有後盾呀 首先我要多謝鬧市.佢讓我增進了養魚知識和認識了不少養魚高手(如zz..kchunlok.Hurzan.鵬鵬.拔哥和阿康等等)他們在我三個缸中都出了很多力和意見.真是萬分"敢"激;) 他們真係教識了我很多....起碼這個缸除了水冷.其他如set喉pump,skimmer,燈.魚缸外形.設計等等都是在他們指導下自己膽粗粗"尼"的....其中經歷了不少失敗和"裳試:(特別係個死人二手skimmer)..因漏水而地板濕過几多次.連我自己都唔記得了:D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-14 01:37 四哥是否頭髮有馬尾果位? | |
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Posted by: 間歇性 Posted on: 2005-11-14 08:10 TungTung wrote: 四哥是否頭髮有馬尾果位? 係呀，連嘉最近好似同東海拆左Ｄ火炬古B、薄荷狐。 不過比東海貴，呢間舖唔去冇損失。 | |
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Posted by: eric_leung Posted on: 2005-11-14 14:56 TungTung wrote: 沙缸 恭喜賀喜東東兄， 東東兄東山再起。 新居新缸新景象！ | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2005-11-16 02:48 :D:D:D Tung Tung 兄： 我開缸時得一支 SCHURAN Jetskim 200，廠家話可用到 2000 L 缸！ 後來諗諗下我個缸唔止 2000 L 水 :O) ，心思思，又買多個 TUNZE 3130/2 廠家話可用到 1200 L 缸，加起來好似仲差少少 :(，結果有魚友平賣 Weipro 2013，見可以同 UV 接在一起又唔駛加泵，結果又買左！:D 而家共三個 Skimmer 一齊打，好明顯 SCHURAN 勁勁勁正！:D TUNZE OK 啦！ Weipo 就 xx( 打得好慢同好稀，兩個月都唔駛清洗！ 講真 Skimmer 真係好重要，你諗下如果將杯裡 d 屎水倒翻落缸真係死得！所以我話你支火箭炮買得最實際！ :P | |
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Posted by: goodmen Posted on: 2005-11-16 16:03 哈哈~~[$#26080]skimmer就要靠硝化菌去食屎囉..... | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-11-26 00:28 二十四味 | |
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Posted by: bluefacelover Posted on: 2005-11-29 10:27 哇! 個skimmer好大啊. 點算唔見魚魚的靚相? | |
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Posted by: eric_leung Posted on: 2005-12-08 13:01 eric leung wrote: TungTung wrote: 沙缸 恭喜賀喜東東兄， 東東兄東山再起。 新居新缸新景象！ 系雜誌中看到你缸魚相片同D資料都好齊全[$#21523]:D:D:D， 相中是你仔仔？:8):8):8)，好老積[$#21523]:D:D:D。 有冇幫手換[$#21523]水呢:):):) | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2005-12-08 16:33 雜誌中 :P | |
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Posted by: ivan0227 Posted on: 2005-12-08 16:53 原來係東缸二號. | |
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Posted by: eric_leung Posted on: 2005-12-08 17:26 eric leung wrote: eric leung wrote: TungTung wrote: 沙缸 恭喜賀喜東東兄， 東東兄東山再起。 新居新缸新景象！ 系雜誌中看到你缸魚相片同D資料都好齊全[$#21523]:D:D:D， 相中是你仔仔？:8):8):8)，好老積[$#21523]:D:D:D。 有冇幫手換[$#21523]水呢:):):) Sorry Sorry 東東兄； 爆[$#21655]出來添，希望唔好介意，唔好意思！ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-12-26 23:05 多謝各位捧場 但很不幸...原來條耳斑像breeder兄條loc般中了飛碟..:( 浸了兩次全淡水.每次都有過佰飛碟 左眼初初仲蒙了.好彩現在好番 現全缸行1.010 希望這不是遺照吧 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-12-26 23:08 希望佢過到這關吧 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-12-26 23:26 兩條都不能少! | |
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Posted by: Breeder Posted on: 2005-12-29 06:38 以你既經驗同資歷一定掂！:) 我上次係咁做，你睇完，諗諗，加以改善，一定過關！ 飛碟蟲係透明既，你睇唔到既！ 佢地死左先會變白色！好似一粒白芝麻咁！ 大多數會係身同鰓到，有時會走去眼到！ 於身上及鰓裏果ｄ會直接吸血及所須營養！ 當去到眼部時佢地會咬眼膜，從而吸取食物，咁魚眼就會變蒙，同一般蒙眼病相似，魚眼會變奶白色及甩皮咁，眼會爛、穿眼瞙，然後眼會盲！只有此時才會被我們發覺！ 但此時其數目已為數不少！估計此時已不只一條魚中招！ 而一般佢地上左身就唔會甩出來，除非浸淡水或者條魚死左，佢地先會甩出來！ 又或者數目太多而須另尋擸物才會走到別的魚上繼續開大餐及繁殖！ 一般佢地會首選缸內大魚，因易上身及供應食物多及冇咁快吸干而死！ 所以大仙，大吊，大碟乃高危份子！ 這種寄生蟲與水姪類似，要慢慢吸取主體養份，又不想一下子吸干，因為要曾取食物及保持長久食物供應！因此主體一般不會很快死亡！ 所以一發覺，即做野，絕對有時間救回魚兒！ 1) 將缸內所有魚捉出來淡水浴五至拾五分鐘。 留意邊條中左招！ 2) 將缸內水全放走，注入淡水浸缸拾五至二拾分鐘，開泵令系統行十五分鐘。此時缸內成蟲應全死掉！ 3) 加 salt 入缸，教回 1.010。 全缸行 1.010。 4) 把浸完淡水的魚兒們放回缸內，停餵三、四日，之後每兩日餵一次，份量為以前的一半或以下。 5) 七天後把所有魚捉出來浸淡水浴五至拾五分鐘。 留意邊條仲有飛碟蟲！浸完又放回缸內！ 6) 再七天後把第二次浸時仲有飛碟蟲的魚先捉出來浸淡水五至拾五分鐘。浸完又放回缸內！ 7) 再七天後捉兩條最大而又中過招的魚及是但一、兩條魚出來浸淡水五至拾五分鐘。 如再沒有飛碟蟲出現！ 繼續全缸行 1.010 兩至三個星期。 然後慢慢把咸度升回正常 1.020 - 1.022。 注意提升咸度真係要好慢好慢，最好分幾日至一星期，唔係好易死魚！ 由於多次浸淡水，會令魚兒身體天然保護膜失效，因此魚兒可能會受細菌感染。如有此情況可落消炎殺菌藥如 Erythromycin，但因此類藥物對消化細菌做成壓力，所以一定要減少餵食！ 因無証據顯示 1.010 可殺死飛碟蟲，本人亦覺得行 1.010 只能令飛碟幼蟲難於生存，而慢慢死光，所以如果鹽度只有 1.012 或以上，未必對它們做成足夠壓力！固須準確調至 1.010 ！而行 1.010 亦須行一段時間 ( 大約一個月 ) 才可令飛碟幼蟲被環境壓力所迫，難以生存而慢慢死去！這時候，光學鹽度計發揮明顯效用，值回票價！ Tung Tung 兄：Good Luck ! :D 下期 Aquazone 到我亮相，06年元旦日出，幾有紀念價值，買本睇下我個缸，支特下！:D | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2005-12-29 09:51 Good Report ! Work ;) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-12-29 22:52 Breeder wrote: 以你既經驗同資歷一定掂！:) 我上次係咁做，你睇完，諗諗，加以改善，一定過關！ 飛碟蟲係透明既，你睇唔到既！ 佢地死左先會變白色！好似一粒白芝麻咁！ 大多數會係身同鰓到，有時會走去眼到！ 於身上及鰓裏果ｄ會直接吸血及所須營養！ 當去到眼部時佢地會咬眼膜，從而吸取食物，咁魚眼就會變蒙，同一般蒙眼病相似，魚眼會變奶白色及甩皮咁，眼會爛、穿眼瞙，然後眼會盲！只有此時才會被我們發覺！ 但此時其數目已為數不少！估計此時已不只一條魚中招！ 而一般佢地上左身就唔會甩出來，除非浸淡水或者條魚死左，佢地先會甩出來！ 又或者數目太多而須另尋擸物才會走到別的魚上繼續開大餐及繁殖！ 一般佢地會首選缸內大魚，因易上身及供應食物多及冇咁快吸干而死！ 所以大仙，大吊，大碟乃高危份子！ 這種寄生蟲與水姪類似，要慢慢吸取主體養份，又不想一下子吸干，因為要曾取食物及保持長久食物供應！因此主體一般不會很快死亡！ 所以一發覺，即做野，絕對有時間救回魚兒！ 1) 將缸內所有魚捉出來淡水浴五至拾五分鐘。 留意邊條中左招！ 2) 將缸內水全放走，注入淡水浸缸拾五至二拾分鐘，開泵令系統行十五分鐘。此時缸內成蟲應全死掉！ 3) 加 salt 入缸，教回 1.010。 全缸行 1.010。 4) 把浸完淡水的魚兒們放回缸內，停餵三、四日，之後每兩日餵一次，份量為以前的一半或以下。 5) 七天後把所有魚捉出來浸淡水浴五至拾五分鐘。 留意邊條仲有飛碟蟲！浸完又放回缸內！ 6) 再七天後把第二次浸時仲有飛碟蟲的魚先捉出來浸淡水五至拾五分鐘。浸完又放回缸內！ 7) 再七天後捉兩條最大而又中過招的魚及是但一、兩條魚出來浸淡水五至拾五分鐘。 如再沒有飛碟蟲出現！ 繼續全缸行 1.010 兩至三個星期。 然後慢慢把咸度升回正常 1.020 - 1.022。 注意提升咸度真係要好慢好慢，最好分幾日至一星期，唔係好易死魚！ 由於多次浸淡水，會令魚兒身體天然保護膜失效，因此魚兒可能會受細菌感染。如有此情況可落消炎殺菌藥如 Erythromycin，但因此類藥物對消化細菌做成壓力，所以一定要減少餵食！ 因無証據顯示 1.010 可殺死飛碟蟲，本人亦覺得行 1.010 只能令飛碟幼蟲難於生存，而慢慢死光，所以如果鹽度只有 1.012 或以上，未必對它們做成足夠壓力！固須準確調至 1.010 ！而行 1.010 亦須行一段時間 ( 大約一個月 ) 才可令飛碟幼蟲被環境壓力所迫，難以生存而慢慢死去！這時候，光學鹽度計發揮明顯效用，值回票價！ Tung Tung 兄：Good Luck ! Breeder兄: 其實我中飛碟虫的時間同你差唔多.所以有參考你的做法. 不過我很懶.只是捉缸內高危一族浸淡水.然後全缸行1.010.現乙行了三個多星期.期間皇帝和班收口.而皇帝曾一度病危:~)情急下便試下同佢浸糖水.然後再用膠管灌佢飲維他奶.....結果............................................. 佢今天......終於..........終於.........開口食少少粒糧了8D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-12-29 22:57 Breeder wrote: :D 下期 Aquazone 到我亮相，06年元旦日出，幾有紀念價值，買本睇下我個缸，支特下！:D 早知我叫埋佢地帶埋我一起去你府上參觀.見識下你個巨缸啦. | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2005-12-29 23:00 could u tell more about 浸糖水.然後再用膠管灌佢飲維他奶 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-12-29 23:03 聖誕節從新整個的石...只係整了大半.但成個人都散晒xx( | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-12-30 23:49 eddi wrote: could u tell more about 浸糖水.然後再用膠管灌佢飲維他奶 大家都知葡萄糖是各生物的最終燃料.亦是最容易吸收的糖類.魚鰓是有很多細少的毛細血管組成.用來交換氧和CO2.所以理論上都應可以吸收少量糖份.加上海水係咸的.基於osmosis的關係.魚會不停地失水.我記得中學生物課曾經教過魚因此要不停喝水.然後用一個特別器官把多餘salt排出. 所以理論上把海水加糖.而糖的濃度夠高的話.病魚是可以吸收到糖.助佢補充體力.渡過難關的. 一個月前.當我個缸受飛碟入侵時.耳斑和黃帝相繼收口~)狀態越來越差.他們身上冇細菌感染的情況....因為仲要行1.010成個月...我想如果我什麼都唔做的話...它們實9死1生.所以我便試一試每4to5天便捉佢出來浸糖水浴(每lL海水加70g葡萄糖.每次浸3to4小時.最後用針筒加膠管灌佢飲5to10ml維他奶(效果麻麻..因見每次都有奶流出魚鰓外.不過如果有10to15%落到肚.都應該好好了) 個人感覺...浸糖水浴后...佢地好似精神了.我個缸現在仲係行緊1.010但黃帝乙經開番口食少少粒糧...耳斑亦回勇.今晚竟然喙我的手指8D 我唔知係我好彩或這個方法真係work....不過可以肯定這個方法冇害. | |
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Posted by: cool Posted on: 2005-12-30 23:53 請問邊隻糖水, 定係粉濟個隻. | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2005-12-31 00:26 cool wrote: 請問邊隻糖水, 定係粉濟個隻. 一定要用葡萄糖.因為佢是單糖.分子最細最容易吸收.而且不用酵素分解.可以即用. 方法 1.買葡萄靈.然後開水 2.買葡萄適.然後成枝到落水:})(說笑) 3用沙糖(效果應較差.因主要成份是蔗糖) | |
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Posted by: 德米 Posted on: 2005-12-31 00:28 東東: 如果能[$#21307]好D魚魚， 真係服左你。 | |
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Posted by: eddi Posted on: 2005-12-31 09:49 Good thks :P | |
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Posted by: 小丑柏 Posted on: 2005-12-31 10:40 TungTung wrote: cool wrote: 請問邊隻糖水, 定係粉濟個隻. 一定要用葡萄糖.因為佢是單糖.分子最細最容易吸收.而且不用酵素分解.可以即用. 方法 1.買葡萄靈.然後開水 2.買葡萄適.然後成枝到落水:})(說笑) 3用沙糖(效果應較差.因主要成份是蔗糖) 好勁呀!好似bb咁病時要補充水份要飲葡萄糖水呀! | |
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Posted by: 林哥仔 Posted on: 2006-01-01 03:17 咁維他奶有咩用? | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2006-01-01 20:43 林哥仔 wrote: 咁維他奶有咩用? 維他奶主要係黃豆制成，有丰富的植物蛋白質和糖.海水魚日常的食物係海綿和海草,主要成份都係植物蛋白質 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2006-01-02 01:07 小丑柏 和德米: 我都係搏下。 我上次行一個月1.010時，死了几條心愛的魚，它們主要都是收口而死(其實落得我缸的，條條我都好鐘意:}))，當時我都好唔開心 而今次收口竟是聖帝和大耳斑，我真唔想眼白白看住佢地一日差過一日，所以便試下。 今天耳斑乙經食少少羽毛草，雖然仲唔肯食生蝦…不過我乙經好開心了 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2006-01-29 10:52 恭喜發財 祝大家金銀遍地 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2006-01-29 10:53 利是滿魟 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2006-01-29 10:55 耳肥屋潤 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2006-01-29 10:58 花開富貴 | |
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Posted by: 康仔 Posted on: 2006-01-30 00:23 TungTung, 見耳斑好似已好番, 恭喜恭喜:D 另聖帝如何:?) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-02-28 01:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjobXoJwT_Y No update for a long time.....most of the old fishes had passed away. In fact,I had nearly given up and the tank was almost emptied for a whole yr. The new fishes are just bought within these three to four months Thanks Breeder and ZZ for the advice and help for regaining the excitement of fish keeping! | |
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Posted by: ivan0227 Posted on: 2009-02-28 14:26 hi, 東兄, 你條大耳斑好正, 咩size? 同埋你個缸幾大?:D | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-01 09:57 Ivan 兄: 這條耳斑約九吋，給三年前的果條細。 不過都是怕羞魚、難開口 我要用浴缸作Q缸，單獨Q了一個星期，養到定晒才開口。 主缸約85"x24"x32" | |
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Posted by: ivan0227 Posted on: 2009-03-01 22:12 TungTung wrote: Ivan 兄: 這條耳斑約九吋，給三年前的果條細。 不過都是怕羞魚、難開口 我要用浴缸作Q缸，單獨Q了一個星期，養到定晒才開口。 主缸約85"x24"x32" 很大的魚缸呀...大耳斑能夠開口真是一件不容易的事, 恭喜恭喜!!!:P | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-04 01:03 ivan0227 wrote: TungTung wrote: Ivan 兄: 這條耳斑約九吋，給三年前的果條細。 不過都是怕羞魚、難開口 我要用浴缸作Q缸，單獨Q了一個星期，養到定晒才開口。 主缸約85"x24"x32" 很大的魚缸呀...大耳斑能夠開口真是一件不容易的事, 恭喜恭喜!!!:P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDbEhysTBas 附上耳班剛開口的影片、我當時興奮的心情，真是非筆墨可形容 | |
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Posted by: ivan0227 Posted on: 2009-03-05 19:16 TungTung wrote: 附上耳班剛開口的影片、我當時興奮的心情，真是非筆墨可形容 :P太正啦....用浴缸Q魚已經反應出你對養魚之熱情..... 看video中的耳斑那時呼吸像是急速些? 只有9"嗎? 看起來似更大一點....^^ | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-09 00:19 ivan0227 wrote: TungTung wrote: 附上耳班剛開口的影片、我當時興奮的心情，真是非筆墨可形容 :P太正啦....用浴缸Q魚已經反應出你對養魚之熱情..... 看video中的耳斑那時呼吸像是急速些? 只有9"嗎? 看起來似更大一點....^^ Ivan 兄的眼力果然利害…拍完這段video后不久耳班便爆白點和UFO，幸好發現得早，現在乙經原全康復 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-09 00:33 這三年我都很少拿起相机給魚魚做紀錄，今天終於影了少少作為記錄 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-09 00:37 第一次養的火背和金頭仔 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-09 00:39 開口但還未過危險期的貴族 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-09 00:44 養了五年死極都死唔去的新娘…就是它令我繼續養海水魚 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-09 00:46 耳班 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-09 00:48 朱仙 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-09 00:50 寶石 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-09 00:58 我的第一個魚缸，乙經有二十五年歷史。 現從父母家中取回作Q缸 | |
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Posted by: lkc Posted on: 2009-03-09 14:54 TungTung wrote: 我的第一個魚缸，乙經有二十五年歷史。 現從父母家中取回作Q缸 二十五年都仲用得?咁好手工.....:O) | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-12 23:03 lkc wrote: TungTung wrote: 我的第一個魚缸，乙經有二十五年歷史。 現從父母家中取回作Q缸 二十五年都仲用得?咁好手工.....:O) 回想當年我讀緊初中…乙經到魚街買金魚8D 不過當時唔留意海水魚 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-12 23:11 四小碟 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-03-12 23:19 第一次養的栗米 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-06-11 21:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n54zVvm9nWY :) | |
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Posted by: tklun60329 Posted on: 2009-06-11 22:52 這舊缸很有親切感！初養魚時去魚鋪常看見的，現在近乎絕蹟了，很有紀念價值。 | |
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Posted by: TungTung Posted on: 2009-06-16 23:54 tklun60329 wrote: 這舊缸很有親切感！初養魚時去魚鋪常看見的，現在近乎絕蹟了，很有紀念價值。 現在近乎絕蹟了<--------你是指舊的魚友? | |
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