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Posted by: sammy¥J
Posted on: 2003-02-22 11:12

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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2003-02-22 11:24

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Posted by: sammy¥J
Posted on: 2003-02-22 11:28

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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2003-02-22 11:49

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Posted by: cmtsui
Posted on: 2003-02-22 11:55

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Posted by: pilot168
Posted on: 2003-02-22 11:59

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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2003-02-22 12:08

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Posted by: iwave
Posted on: 2003-02-22 15:09

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Posted by: blueface
Posted on: 2003-02-22 15:12

Just put a short lenght of PVC pipe or eheim pipe at a corner as a overflow pipe, it is the simplest method.

Hop this helps.

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Posted by: haiven
Posted on: 2003-02-23 18:16

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Posted by: sammy¥J
Posted on: 2003-02-24 09:33

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Posted by: sammy¥J
Posted on: 2003-02-24 09:36

haiven wrote:
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Posted by: clownfish
Posted on: 2003-02-24 09:57

sorry. 1 question ?? already have bio-ball / bio ring still not enough for FOT bioload ??? still need UGF ???( sorry i just keep few small fish , no idea about FOT bio load ? ).
if change UGF to refugium . how it sound like ???
of'coz FOT not so care about NO3 but lower NO3 also good for fish color ??
is it ????
sorry all r question not sugeestion . :D:D

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Posted by: sammy¥J
Posted on: 2003-02-24 10:35

clownfish wrote:
sorry. 1 question ?? already have bio-ball / bio ring still not enough for FOT bioload ??? still need UGF ???( sorry i just keep few small fish , no idea about FOT bio load ? ).
if change UGF to refugium . how it sound like ???
of'coz FOT not so care about NO3 but lower NO3 also good for fish color ??
is it ????
sorry all r question not sugeestion . :D:D




I am planning to feed about 10 fishes (3-4" angel fishes) , so the more the bacteria, the better the tank is. I think you can change ugf to refugium or DSB. As the UGF is in the sump, when it is blocked, I can (1)switch off the pump, (2) clean the sand bed (3) even remove the UGF (4) perform 100% change of water in the sump without disturbing the fishes in the main tank.

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Posted by: clownfish
Posted on: 2003-02-24 11:06

just thinking if can remove UGF than u no need to use ºø, than no same problem happen again ( since u r difficult to modify the sump ) :D:D

another idea . why not just place the ºø on top of the sand ( use few small pcs LR to fixe it ). not put at that block >>> no overflow problems . :D:D

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Posted by: Paulus03
Posted on: 2003-02-24 12:41

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Posted by: TommyTsui
Posted on: 2003-02-24 13:13

Sammy ¥J¡G

Why don't you increse the quantity of cotton in the 1st chamber? And, have the bio-ring put in the 2nd chamber?

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Posted by: haiven
Posted on: 2003-02-24 13:16

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Posted by: eddi
Posted on: 2003-02-24 13:19

hi sammy !
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Posted by: sammy¥J
Posted on: 2003-02-24 14:10

eddi wrote:
hi sammy !
Method 1) ¤¶¥ª¶ô¬Á¼þ¥Xªd, §ï©³2¦T
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Method 2 is more feasible, I think I would not add "blue cotton" on the second chamber because it would lead to flooding again. Am I correct?

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Posted by: sammy¥J
Posted on: 2003-02-24 14:13

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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2003-02-24 14:46

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Posted by: sammy¥J
Posted on: 2003-02-24 15:30

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Posted by: qqleo
Posted on: 2003-02-24 15:32

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Posted by: ªL­ô¥J
Posted on: 2003-02-24 19:14

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Posted by: nebula
Posted on: 2003-02-24 22:50

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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2003-02-25 06:56

nebula wrote:
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My idea is the same as you.:P

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Posted by: sammy¥J
Posted on: 2003-02-25 09:17

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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2003-02-25 09:27

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Posted by: haiven
Posted on: 2003-02-25 11:07

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Posted on: 2003-02-25 12:04

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