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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-10 23:22

心郁郁, 人玩我又試下玩, 學下朋友玩充水層+DSB, 活沙過濾系統, 半RT半FT, 專玩細魚同精品, 少量軟珊瑚, 希望有d成績啦, 大家可以指教下小弟 :)

主缸: 53"長 x 23"闊 x 39"高
沙缸: 34.5"長 x 16.5"闊 x 26"高
Skimmer: Schuran Jetskim 150 (期待轉: H&S 200-1260 - 15.75"長 x 8.75"闊 x 23.5"高)
水冷: Afctica DBM-250 1/3 Hp (13.75"長 x 17.5"闊 x 15"高)
鹵仔: ICECAP DE 燈罩 + ICECAP電子牛 + 250w Giesemann 14000k 鹵素膽 x 2
T5HO: 460 tube x 1 + 03 tube x 1
Moon Light: 鴨記LED貨仔
上水泵: Powerjet 11000 - 1出9 (連推水冷)
充水層: 3分膠板 + 雙頭杯 x 大量
DSB: 3層, 底 - 幼珊瑚骨, 中 - 幼珊瑚骨+Suger鈣沙, 面 - Suger鈣沙

新缸構圖, 一改再改, 改完又再改, 死未xx(
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缸未送來, 做定防潮工作先, 牆身油"敵潮王", 唔駛鏟底再油, 好[$#22050]。:P
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/paba022b3817c3e50b377ed7902d2fc5f/ed8c3ae1.jpg[/img]
新缸7月尾到步: 木櫃內燒鐵架, 要4個大隻佬上缸。
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搞掂, 唔該哂金福|)
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缸帽做到上頂, 內會加板做櫃擺野, 用上15口拉爆, 夠哂穩陣。
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頂帽有成三十幾吋高, 所以諗住做埋櫃擺野, 散熱通氣構圖如下, 只用1把6吋DC扇, 四圍約有1吋空間, 試過便知龍與鳳, 強力向上抽呀。 :})
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p950af1a4f306a8cf9d0dfbec5711ba5f/ed845387.jpg[/img]
上水用Powerjet 11000, 1出6, 1個1吋刁4分加兩個閘制, 1個換水制, 只完成60%, 仲未可以試水。:~)
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沙缸遲遲未掂, 因之前做錯了尺寸, 一改又再改xx( 今天才剛送來, 現有3倉同棉兜, Size越改越細。:~)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pb50883db69a21eb68be7ee4cbbcab57e/ed8c3a59.jpg[/img]
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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-10 23:31

到充水層:
1. 底板 - 3分透明膠板, 大孔: 梳6分 (雙頭杯用), 再小孔: 平均鑽2分, 剛返完通頂, 再鑽左成日, 辛苦到想死。因有頂擔, 所以要切開一半先放到入缸。B)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p4f288cc03d7886de7d559affcd2f14c3/ed8c3a77.jpg[/img]
2. 雙頭杯 (原狀) - 電燈材料舖買, 約100個(1盒), 最好杯身有紋(方便鑽孔), 不過成條新填地街都搵唔到, 無計, 唯有買滑面啦。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pdee5ed5a9a84d8217e5dd4d0a9ae41b4/ed8c3a62.jpg[/img]
3. 雙頭杯 (開孔) - 杯腳鑽4個小孔, 因杯身滑面, 需用G cam固定落鑽, 有d難度, 好彩有老虎幫下手:D
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p63816bd7a7d45f9927cc92e173e9976f/ed8c3a6a.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p037f81dc297fd82159ad6039c176b3e8/ed8c3a68.jpg[/img]
4. 雙頭杯 (完成) - 每個杯腳有4個小孔去水。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p0677aed0378b9bd7ec8a5ed472a81366/ed8c3a66.jpg[/img]

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Posted by: 康仔
Posted on: 2006-08-11 09:07

嘩fred你整得好有心機:O), 個缸亦好靚:KISS: 諗住養乜野精品

RT唔駛用到H&S200, 你支Jetskim150夠曬咯:)

大光明支鹵仔好熱下, 雖然有內置散熱扇, 但散熱扇一郁就好大味, 把扇又易燒(我支燈用左兩個月左右散熱扇就瓜左:})) 見你個帽做到頂, 又好似無裝風扇, 最好加番把同支鹵仔[$#30528]燈同步, 幫佢散散熱好d:I

仲有, 支鹵仔諗住用架托係缸擔定吊上天花:?) 見你話帽內做柜, 似乎唔係吊, 但缸頂d喉又似會阻住支燈, 多口問句唔好介意:P:)

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Posted by: capmo
Posted on: 2006-08-11 09:22

祝開缸順利 :D

個缸好鬼正.
記錄又詳細又有心機.

正!正!正!

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Posted by: ivan0227
Posted on: 2006-08-11 09:26

:P正缸, 祝開缸順利......PJ11000, 1出6可能令水流分散, 減弱0左喎...:)

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-11 09:57

康仔 wrote:
嘩fred你整得好有心機:O), 個缸亦好靚:KISS: 諗住養乜野精品

RT唔駛用到H&S200, 你支Jetskim150夠曬咯:)

大光明支鹵仔好熱下, 雖然有內置散熱扇, 但散熱扇一郁就好大味, 把扇又易燒(我支燈用左兩個月左右散熱扇就瓜左:})) 見你個帽做到頂, 又好似無裝風扇, 最好加番把同支鹵仔[$#30528]燈同步, 幫佢散散熱好d:I

仲有, 支鹵仔諗住用架托係缸擔定吊上天花:?) 見你話帽內做柜, 似乎唔係吊, 但缸頂d喉又似會阻住支燈, 多口問句唔好介意:P:)




放心, 鹵仔一定係吊上天花, 原來支鹵仔咁熱既, 好彩我仲未買, 康仔, 有無好既鹵仔介紹下, 48" 250w x 2, 要唔好咁熱, 散熱好, 同budget around Solarmax價, 如有2手基士文就好lu ;)

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Posted by: 康仔
Posted on: 2006-08-11 14:08

fredfred wrote:

放心, 鹵仔一定係吊上天花, 原來支鹵仔咁熱既, 好彩我仲未買, 康仔, 有無好既鹵仔介紹下, 48" 250w x 2, 要唔好咁熱, 散熱好, 同budget around Solarmax價, 如有2手基士文就好lu ;)




講好既梗基士文啦, 不過貴到xx(...其實Solarmax個性能/價格比已經唔錯, 呢個價要有250w x2+T5x2無乜其他選擇. 同埋佢跟黎果兩個原裝膽已唔錯, 唔駛一定換BLV, 等用殘先再換都唔遲;) 我果支用左差唔多半年, 對佢無乜唔滿意, 係佢係把散熱扇比較雞[$#21867]:P 不過自從把散熱扇打左柴我都無特別做散熱(不過我個缸頂帽好矮, 四面無乜野阻住支燈), 佢都無樹:P:P 你都無揀錯架喇:D 仲有你個缸既長度用36" 250w x 2已夠照(我依家個缸60"都係用36"), 又可慳返少少錢/空間;)

查實支支鹵仔都係咁熱,因主要熱源係兩個燈膽,其他零件無乜熱力產生,要用就無計:~) 散熱主要靠風扇, 所以我先會提議你加把風扇係柜內吹住支燈幫佢散熱:P 另咁大支鹵仔好重下B), 記得吊上天花時落足料:)

仲有你諗住加乜野珊瑚:?) 原本想叫你記得叫鋪頭跟14000K膽唔好要10000K, 出黎魚同珊瑚既色都靚好多, 但你個缸成39"深又驚14000K唔夠力去到缸底...

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-11 14:54

康仔 wrote:
fredfred wrote:

放心, 鹵仔一定係吊上天花, 原來支鹵仔咁熱既, 好彩我仲未買, 康仔, 有無好既鹵仔介紹下, 48" 250w x 2, 要唔好咁熱, 散熱好, 同budget around Solarmax價, 如有2手基士文就好lu ;)




講好既梗基士文啦, 不過貴到xx(...其實Solarmax個性能/價格比已經唔錯, 呢個價要有250w x2+T5x2無乜其他選擇. 同埋佢跟黎果兩個原裝膽已唔錯, 唔駛一定換BLV, 等用殘先再換都唔遲;) 我果支用左差唔多半年, 對佢無乜唔滿意, 係佢係把散熱扇比較雞[$#21867]:P 不過自從把散熱扇打左柴我都無特別做散熱(不過我個缸頂帽好矮, 四面無乜野阻住支燈), 佢都無樹:P:P 你都無揀錯架喇:D 仲有你個缸既長度用36" 250w x 2已夠照(我依家個缸60"都係用36"), 又可慳返少少錢/空間;)

查實支支鹵仔都係咁熱,因主要熱源係兩個燈膽,其他零件無乜熱力產生,要用就無計:~) 散熱主要靠風扇, 所以我先會提議你加把風扇係柜內吹住支燈幫佢散熱:P 另咁大支鹵仔好重下B), 記得吊上天花時落足料:)

仲有你諗住加乜野珊瑚:?) 原本想叫你記得叫鋪頭跟14000K膽唔好要10000K, 出黎魚同珊瑚既色都靚好多, 但你個缸成39"深又驚14000K唔夠力去到缸底...




多謝您寶貴意見;) FYI, 舖頭可以加錢轉�e, 所以我會轉BLV 250w 20000K :D 至於散熱扇, 會考慮參考server rack既原理(仲會有對流), 現有好多野未完成, 等遲下再update就會明多dd。:D

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Posted by: 康仔
Posted on: 2006-08-11 15:21

fredfred wrote:

多謝您寶貴意見;) FYI, 舖頭可以加錢轉�e, 所以我會轉BLV 250w 20000K :D 至於散熱扇, [color=red]會考慮參考server rack既原理(仲會有對流)[/color], 現有好多野未完成, 等遲下再update就會明多dd。:D




好有興趣:O) 記得update:P:P

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Posted by: oceanshores17
Posted on: 2006-08-11 20:52

鹵仔 ufo 都幾好

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Posted by: oceanshores17
Posted on: 2006-08-11 22:22

雙杯頭 有乜用

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-12 07:44

oceanshores17 wrote:
雙杯頭 有乜用




sorry應該係叫"雙頭杯", 用來做充水層, 貪佢唔駛自己cut, 好好用, 遲下再update下就會明。|)

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Posted by: kingyin
Posted on: 2006-08-12 10:10

有無相睇下呀 !

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-12 14:52

ivan0227 wrote:
:P正缸, 祝開缸順利......PJ11000, 1出6可能令水流分散, 減弱0左喎...:)




係set缸個師父幫我design既, 已加左個1吋刁4分同有2個閘制控制水流, 應該no problem喎, 不過最終都要等試水後才知。B)

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-12 14:55

kingyin wrote:
有無相睇下呀 !




魚佬網又死x左:!( 唔識係度點開個相簿擺相?:?)

現轉用其他地方放相lu... hoho~~!!:^)

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Posted by: oceanshores17
Posted on: 2006-08-12 23:31

fredfred wrote:
oceanshores17 wrote:
雙杯頭 有乜用




sorry應該係叫"雙頭杯", 用來做充水層, 貪佢唔駛自己cut, 好好用, 遲下再update下就會明。|)




記住post相, tks

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Posted by: kingyin
Posted on: 2006-08-13 00:38

fredfred 兄....!
你缸帽做到上頂 ! 要加抽氣..如果吾係加埋老仔...泵... ! 都幾熱 ! 我之前都係有 缸帽 ...後期熱到頂吾住 ! 拆鬼左佢呀 ! 真係有心機....繪晒先做呀 ! d圖正 wor !自己繪呀 !

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Posted by: xvx
Posted on: 2006-08-13 12:38

好正呀!!!
師兄, 個缸邊到做架?

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-13 22:55

今日再完成了一部份 :D

帽內工程: 4分木板《面》
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pd647f8897b7dccb705ede425eb6eb243/ed881dbb.jpg[/img]
帽內工程: 4分木板《底》- 貼木紋紙
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pe593bc0e2974480c30840cf435ff868a/ed881dbc.jpg[/img]
帽內工程: 完成
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p34436a692e26385f0db7e39a5abfb0ca/ed881dc1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p31a8e4b920a7d181ceebb55efd0357ec/ed881dc2.jpg[/img]
地櫃工程: 電制位修正, 之前插不到電制, 現在搞掂哂Okay 8D
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pa05d6ac4be5f54c30cc19f29d8a3a879/ed881322.jpg[/img]

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Posted by: oceanshores17
Posted on: 2006-08-14 00:06

kingyin wrote:
fredfred 兄....!
你缸帽做到上頂 ! 要加抽氣..如果吾係加埋老仔...泵... ! 都幾熱 ! 我之前都係有 缸帽 ...後期熱到頂吾住 ! 拆鬼左佢呀 ! 真係有心機....繪晒先做呀 ! d圖正 wor !自己繪呀 !




乜牌子鹵仔咁hot

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-16 23:48

Update :P

沙缸、上落水駁位及灰喉、等等......100%完成
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p1b178fa41ae5bd8a90d2a631033c35bd/ed78d030.jpg[/img]
上落水駁位及灰喉, 中間90度駁口曲就係用上利可保獨創既立體曲, 獨家專利, 貴到死 :!( 近鏡個45度曲係錯既, 遲下會換番90度曲, 遲下先講原因。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pc3666fd9b8e78e8180350c34dc420bd9/ed78d033.jpg[/img]
做埋防洪吸同換水制, 十分周全 :D
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p691e0c09ee23a52c0279abc1d91f3b2b/ed78cfff.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pf19f9b46d21cf387157ac69f0e0d7225/ed78d02e.jpg[/img]
今晚就係個沙缸側邊梳左2個孔走喉用喇 :D (hole = 50mm, one for 上水, one for 水冷)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p1cdf7c2b01ced77f05de07bb5616a4e5/ed78d032.jpg[/img]
棉兜去水落沙缸位置。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pe7eb017342aee7e5ded853a8fe84a3c6/ed78cfd9.jpg[/img]
放埋支skimmer落去先 :P
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pa997bb0a0156050ebaf964d7f12bb36e/ed78cfd4.jpg[/img]
順便影下個充水層底板, 此乃心血汗結晶, 不知令我流了多少汗水, 鑽過百個大小孔, 將接近完成 8D
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p0475005ae03e65d27e09b14f12d2f5ee/ed78cfc1.jpg[/img]
已完成作品: 充水層底板+雙頭杯+大小入水孔 :P (欲知後事發展, 請繼續留意再update既充水層DSB活沙篇:D)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p23241e76ae0f311bf4e65f134848034d/ed723e6e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pf263f88fe79c9b3dda37195ada6a0e67/ed723e8b.jpg[/img]

明天可以試水喇..........待續............... ;)

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Posted by: oceanshores17
Posted on: 2006-08-17 22:16

順便影下個充水層底板, 此乃心血汗結晶, 不知令我流了多少汗水, 鑽過百個大小孔, 已接近完成

點解唔用格仔板

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-18 01:05

oceanshores17 wrote:
順便影下個充水層底板, 此乃心血汗結晶, 不知令我流了多少汗水, 鑽過百個大小孔, 已接近完成

點解唔用格仔板




格仔板邊夠力撐住6,7吋沙, 仲要7 x 24 x n years喎, it doesn't make sense :D

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-18 12:14

終於試水喇 |)
10%........
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p40f5a27cdfa7be43fbef1c7d07d6a5dc/ed723e64.jpg[/img]
30%...........
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pc62da5e42d5cd1145cd8f612895badae/ed723e5d.jpg[/img]
70%..................................
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p7c638676bc528a73ad429b27a6f1e870/ed723e58.jpg[/img]
落水情況尚算唔錯 :8)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p7589a76c931958127d86a9ba3995d90c/ed723869.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p30f84ae538f38d04489d42e1503160df/ed723e51.jpg[/img]
Running暫時Okay啦, 跟住來就係"鄧"水。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p6ffcacedc3f99e542635f80b5f7121f4/ed72383d.jpg[/img]

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Posted by: 岩礁園丁
Posted on: 2006-08-18 13:48

很精美的製作, 讚...
期待下回發展..;)

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Posted by: oceanshores17
Posted on: 2006-08-19 22:25

點解你post相咁細張, 可否改大的

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-20 00:06

[color=blue]充水層DSB活沙過濾篇:[/color]

Loading........................................40%完成

各層構圖:
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pbe13cd5703edee54b6fb2fa4601ffea1/ed6ca274.jpg[/img]

1. 底板 - 3分透明膠板, 大孔: 梳6分 (雙頭杯用), 再小孔: 平均鑽2分, 剛返完通頂, 再鑽左成日, 辛苦到想死。因有頂擔, 所以要切開一半先放到入缸。B)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p4f288cc03d7886de7d559affcd2f14c3/ed8c3a77.jpg[/img]
2. 雙頭杯 (原狀) - 電燈材料舖買, 約100個(1盒), 最好杯身有紋(方便鑽孔), 不過成條新填地街都搵唔到, 無計, 唯有買滑面啦。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pdee5ed5a9a84d8217e5dd4d0a9ae41b4/ed8c3a62.jpg[/img]
3. 雙頭杯 (開孔) - 杯腳鑽4個小孔, 因杯身滑面, 需用G cam固定落鑽, 有d難度, 好彩有老虎幫下手:D
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p63816bd7a7d45f9927cc92e173e9976f/ed8c3a6a.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p037f81dc297fd82159ad6039c176b3e8/ed8c3a68.jpg[/img]
4. 雙頭杯 (完成) - 每個杯腳有4個小孔去水。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p0677aed0378b9bd7ec8a5ed472a81366/ed8c3a66.jpg[/img]
5. 充水層底板(80%完成), 此乃心血汗結晶, 不知令我流了多少汗水, 鑽過百個大小孔 8D
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p0475005ae03e65d27e09b14f12d2f5ee/ed78cfc1.jpg[/img]
6. 充水層底板(100%完成): 3分膠底板+雙頭杯+大小入水孔 :P
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p23241e76ae0f311bf4e65f134848034d/ed723e6e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pf263f88fe79c9b3dda37195ada6a0e67/ed723e8b.jpg[/img]
7. 格仔板(底層), 剪裁完成。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p1b4986d3caede48da7415855eca05254/ed6ccc7c.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p2cfcfe0ca51e5d9d7d0de9873f8b2ce7/ed6ccc7d.jpg[/img]
8. 尼龍沙網, 剪裁完成, 用索帶將格仔板連在一起。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/paeb1c0e85f0b825a5e8c4702cc78f2a4/ed6ccc7e.jpg[/img]
9. 充水層底板落缸咯 :D
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pfbfde88e0bd4e8bff5ff0e494ddb29b3/ed6ccc4d.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p21f87a3f1caaac7fa0531a754fbb7a25/ed6ccc7b.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p16ad17d558a5636f7608ca6918b72ba5/ed6ccc4b.jpg[/img]
10. 沙網/格仔板一齊落缸呢 :8)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p8745793a40d2589fe05019863536c8a3/ed6ccc41.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p895455d5a0188e5aace740494bd94493/ed6ccc3b.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/p863c0657d1082f47b20d78fe91dbda1b/ed6ccc30.jpg[/img]
11. 洗沙: 細幼珊瑚骨, 乾淨咯, 洗左6次, 救命 xx(
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid211/pa5598c2340fde7d81ba9d8181760f7ee/ed6ccc29.jpg[/img]

待續..........................

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Posted by: oceanshores17
Posted on: 2006-08-20 18:24

fredfred wrote:
oceanshores17 wrote:
順便影下個充水層底板, 此乃心血汗結晶, 不知令我流了多少汗水, 鑽過百個大小孔, 已接近完成

點解唔用格仔板




格仔板邊夠力撐住6,7吋沙, 仲要7 x 24 x n years喎, it doesn't make sense :D




我用過阿加力膠, 用左無幾耐就變曲, 我記得有位師兄用格仔板做充水層, 唔該邊個記得post 過 link, 先post個圖參考

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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2006-08-20 18:28

玩得好激咁啵...;)

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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2006-08-20 19:07

嘩! 而家先睇到....真係有心有力.....:O)
新式智能型底缸都係設計得好正.....:^)
充水層簡直嘆為觀止....8D
利害利害.....

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Posted on: 2006-08-20 23:11

oceanshores17 wrote:
我用過阿加力膠, 用左無幾耐就變曲, 我記得有位師兄用格仔板做充水層, 唔該邊個記得post 過 link, 先post個圖參考




會變形, 所以我咪用3分厚既阿加力膠板, 一定硬淨過只用格仔板, 再鑽咁多孔用雙頭杯, 力度平均(當然日後要再配合擺石方法位置等), 再配合沙網+格仔板 x 2, 缸底係雙底玻璃, 真係有d信心既。其實你個方法原理同我一樣, 不過兩者比較就取我這個較安心, 不過工夫就多好多了, 辛苦好多。(*註: 玩DSB生物石千祈要加底擔or雙底玻璃, 如果唔係後果不堪設想。)

今天同某魚友傾過計研究過, 我d出水喉玩RT有很多不足之處, 所以會有所改動, 有機會再分享啦。

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Posted by: kingyin
Posted on: 2006-08-20 23:47

嘩...3分..成 9mm 膠片 ! 咁厚...d 杯梳又咁鬼密...我念吾會...曲呀 ! 塊亞加力都吾少錢 wor ! ...偉大工程

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Posted by: oceanshores17
Posted on: 2006-08-21 13:39

三分亞加力真唔少錢, 不過最緊要安心, 請問個紗網要唔要成個亞加力膠包實定就咁鋪係格仔板面 (的相唔係好清楚)

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-21 14:24

3分膠板係膠片舖介唔會太昂貴, 紗網係在格仔板底, 就咁舖係面得喇。

多謝咁多位版主、前輩欣賞,其實這個設計都係參考friend既, 不是我自己設計的,不過手工上我就完美化左,希望實踐上係perfectly work啦, 唔好虎頭蛇尾就好了。;)

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Posted by: kurtkurt
Posted on: 2006-08-23 03:39

厲害厲害
新系[$#32479]的確唔同D ;)

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Posted by: jervis
Posted on: 2006-08-24 07:17

"king":O):O):O)

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Posted by: oceanshores17
Posted on: 2006-08-25 13:47

fredfred wrote:
3分膠板係膠片舖介唔會太昂貴, 紗網係在格仔板底, 就咁舖係面得喇。

多謝咁多位版主、前輩欣賞,其實這個設計都係參考friend既, 不是我自己設計的,不過手工上我就完美化左,希望實踐上係perfectly work啦, 唔好虎頭蛇尾就好了。;)




http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/topic_show.cgi?id=10006&pg=6&bpg=1

以上方法平及方便好多

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-26 22:10

水冷決定向上發展, 一於改改佢, 唔該哂老豆幫手 :X
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid212/p99994b9481b89bf256321d1a160dab09/ed4fa858.jpg[/img]

今日返生物石, 明天開始又要忙個不停了......:o)

開始浸鈣沙(明天洗)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid212/p4c97d6f689ae639b314330f6ffbd2614/ed4f229f.jpg[/img]
浸埋d生物石共200磅, d石唔錯喎, 好紫下, 不過好腥哎唷..........xx(
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid212/p71bd6e31bceb795781b9e001c8e9a11d/ed4f229e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid212/p85fd8d25a032acf4cc6e40404ca613cb/ed4f22a1.jpg[/img]

哈哈......俾我KO左兩隻瀨尿蝦喇 :D

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Posted by: Bono
Posted on: 2006-08-27 09:05

Hi Fredfred

Can you tell me 200磅生物石 how much & where bought it ?

thanks ^^

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-27 09:57

Bono wrote:
Hi Fredfred

Can you tell me 200磅生物石 how much & where bought it ?

thanks ^^




Take a look la...

http://www1.hksaltfish.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=104823&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

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Posted by: oceanshores17
Posted on: 2006-08-27 19:19

fredfred wrote:
Bono wrote:
Hi Fredfred

Can you tell me 200磅生物石 how much & where bought it ?

thanks ^^




Take a look la...

http://www1.hksaltfish.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=104823&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0




睇落幾靚, 買得過

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Posted on: 2006-08-27 19:22

睇落幾靚, 買得過



請問200lbs約有幾多舊生物石

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-28 02:13

今日再來set喉, 去片...... :)

棉兜雨淋管開孔(完成)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p936b7d56929c5d8e09e26d7be83ba6ad/ed4a88d2.jpg[/img]

出水喉 1出9, 其中1個推水冷, 試水仲好勁下添 :P
1.
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p1e7be0a8cd534bb9184e3613910544e9/ed4a86f3.jpg[/img]
2.
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p411494f973690727dc00643399f0a078/ed4a86ed.jpg[/img]
3.
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p5eb9f29c3be75778808eb4dabce34c10/ed4a86f1.jpg[/img]
4. 呢個出口做俾水冷用, 泵都慳番。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p60cdfde3bb4efec9d484e636c4a4ccb5/ed4a86ea.jpg[/img]
完成 1.
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p766c52caefb8fd17411be22c29f2fced/ed4a8670.jpg[/img]
完成 2.
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p73118c827742c9696719cf6e786c5137/ed4a866c.jpg[/img]

落沙喇... :D
Step 1: 幼珊瑚骨舖底
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/pe51b7aa66b8febaeda508c42e81704b0/ed4184b4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p3ba81fc9685d0cc22b951a7a948d75fe/ed4184ae.jpg[/img]
Step 2: 再一層沙網+格仔板, 用來防槍蝦同其他生物搞個沙�H。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/pb9f91dba23a10065e4c4dfd810ac2265/ed4184ab.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p089d74f2de5211c3c0a2ea61aafadabf/ed4184b2.jpg[/img]
Step 3: 再舖幼珊瑚骨, 之後可以落鈣沙了。
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p37b32913b21a0eae922bc6e66af24c3e/ed41845b.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/pb0c90d87836d07a7136817b6eaeee649/ed418488.jpg[/img]
Step 4: 到落生物石了, 搞到無覺好�� xx(
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p078b425fa5df99ed79a5e5f4d53fff2c/ed41844f.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p81dc34ae205ccdd8a69672a4d44c8d49/ed41844b.jpg[/img]
Step 5: 著pump行水, 未得住...因沙缸唔夠水......好多氣泡啊~~!!
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p7b8020daf868f4edd3d2c66edbdbdfcf/ed41841d.jpg[/img]
咁樣算唔算亂流(好亂) B)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p5c40cfa518a1bdab53eb0779cdb55d9f/ed41841c.jpg[/img]
側面
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid213/p267fd5b6b75847ebe6d6ed54cf003fcf/ed4183ee.jpg[/img]

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Posted by: ivan0227
Posted on: 2006-08-28 08:41

B)請問fredfred兄咩上水泵咁勁? 1出9? 好想睇下每個出水口ge流量同力度係點...

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Posted by: 沙嘩地級
Posted on: 2006-08-29 12:37

ivan0227 wrote:
B)請問fredfred兄咩上水泵咁勁? 1出9? 好想睇下每個出水口ge流量同力度係點...




我都想知..........:0)

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-29 13:56

沙嘩地級 wrote:
ivan0227 wrote:
B)請問fredfred兄咩上水泵咁勁? 1出9? 好想睇下每個出水口ge流量同力度係點...




我都想知..........:0)




just PJ11000 :D

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Posted by: alienwalker
Posted on: 2006-08-29 14:46

勁!! :D:8):O)

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Posted by: 沙嘩地級
Posted on: 2006-08-29 18:26

fredfred wrote:
沙嘩地級 wrote:
ivan0227 wrote:
B)請問fredfred兄咩上水泵咁勁? 1出9? 好想睇下每個出水口ge流量同力度係點...




我都想知..........:0)




just PJ11000 :D




你個缸成53"長 x 23"闊 x 39"高.用just PJ11000 1出9.水流力度會唔會好弱呢

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Posted by: 沙嘩地級
Posted on: 2006-08-29 18:31

Afctica DBM-250 1/3 Hp 而家阿瑪記賣緊幾錢?

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-29 19:47

沙嘩地級 wrote:
fredfred wrote:
沙嘩地級 wrote:
ivan0227 wrote:
B)請問fredfred兄咩上水泵咁勁? 1出9? 好想睇下每個出水口ge流量同力度係點...




我都想知..........:0)




just PJ11000 :D




你個缸成53"長 x 23"闊 x 39"高.用just PJ11000 1出9.水流力度會唔會好弱呢




唔會 B) ............呱

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-29 19:48

沙嘩地級 wrote:
Afctica DBM-250 1/3 Hp 而家阿瑪記賣緊幾錢?




這個你自己去問下咪知law :D

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Posted by: Bono
Posted on: 2006-08-30 00:02

老細執完石未 ? update 0下 D 相睇睇啦 :~)

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Posted by: raymond95062
Posted on: 2006-08-30 01:56

pj11000 一出九再上埋水冷~我諗d水會痾尿咁~~應該唔夠啵

我自己個pj11000 都係一出二咋

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-08-30 09:56

Bono wrote:
老細執完石未 ? update 0下 D 相睇睇啦 :~)




大大佬, 唔好咁心急啦, 砌完石, 已經筋疲力竭咯, 加埋�埜o果少少, [color=red]岩岩又update左d喇, 返前一頁看吧。[/color] :D

by the way, 1出9梗係唔夠力啦, 用刁同閘制 tune番就okay, 不過仲未駁chiller, 我都驚唔多夠力, 到時一試便知。

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-09-04 23:30

換過水, NO2已爆紅(max), 落左兩條青魔(2日未死 :D), Set 好 chiller, 風扇對流...... 一腳踢, 真係好�ヱ�! 不過總算有D野睇下。 :P

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid214/pfbaa979bcf1aef5a17664133ce606c2e/ed263c88.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid214/p1ce48426d36393bae00ff6b756150391/ed263c38.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid214/p0561ab750da1120f63073c22ddd130a1/ed263c8c.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid214/pceec60e075ecdb1ebe3b764cb0764991/ed263c79.jpg[/img]
水質轉好, ORP亦開始慢慢上升。pH非常穩定下, 唔知關唔關d藍珊瑚骨事!?
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid214/pc2f0dfd5468f0a4e6cf78b69715167f7/ed263c13.jpg[/img]

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Posted by: Bono
Posted on: 2006-09-04 23:41

我估計你應該會走向分體
你未加燈 Set 水冷幾多度 ? 可以嗎 ?
車頭有冇長行 ? 需要用廳冷氣幫佢嗎 ?

Anyway 加油 yo ~

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Posted on: 2006-09-04 23:53

Bono wrote:
我估計你應該會走向分體
你未加燈 Set 水冷幾多度 ? 可以嗎 ?
車頭有冇長行 ? 需要用廳冷氣幫佢嗎 ?

Anyway 加油 yo ~




The chiller is working fine up to this moment. set 26.5, just only 2 hrs to finish at 1st time. I came back this evening till this moment around 5 hrs, from begining 26.1 to now 26.5, it didn't switch on anyway. And it cooled down the water just not more than 1 hr. I think it's acceptable for me even once I installed the light later. Thx for yr advice anyway! ;)

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Posted by: 康仔
Posted on: 2006-09-05 10:24

fredfred wrote:
換過水, [color=red]NO2已爆紅(max)[/color], 落左兩條青魔(2日未死 :D), Set 好 chiller, 風扇對流...... 一腳踢, 真係好�ヱ�! 不過總算有D野睇下。 :P




fred你d石裹面好多生物又屎左好多下:O):?) 正常d石本身應有好多硝化菌, NO2唔會升得咁勁過[$#22083]...

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Posted on: 2006-09-05 11:27

康仔 wrote:
fredfred wrote:
換過水, [color=red]NO2已爆紅(max)[/color], 落左兩條青魔(2日未死 :D), Set 好 chiller, 風扇對流...... 一腳踢, 真係好�ヱ�! 不過總算有D野睇下。 :P




fred你d石裹面好多生物又屎左好多下:O):?) 正常d石本身應有好多硝化菌, NO2唔會升得咁勁過[$#22083]...




:~) 可能係大陸石掛, 尋晚發現有隻幾大既瀨尿蝦係石隆入面,俾我"了"左佢條屍出來添(碎埋), 我e+要幾耐換一次水好? 換幾多好? 青魔成日匿係缸面/角,正常嗎? 我e+成個初學者咁 :o)

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Posted on: 2006-09-05 13:46

fredfred wrote:
:~) 可能係大陸石掛, 尋晚發現有隻幾大既瀨尿蝦係石隆入面,俾我"了"左佢條屍出來添(碎埋), 我e+要幾耐換一次水好? 換幾多好? 青魔成日匿係缸面/角,正常嗎? 我e+成個初學者咁 :o)




青魔成日匿係缸面/角,應係好唔舒服係度捱緊,唔想佢地死最好換下水,換到NO2去番橙色起碼,因青魔好弱雞下NO2唔低番d都係食香多...照道理見你d石又係珊瑚骨底仲有好多紫苔應係好野黎格:?) 無乜理由NO2爆紅架喎...都係似裹面d生物死搞成咁...唯今之計都係只有換下水同等佢回落,同埋你個係半魚缸落番幾L生物環好似穩陣d,淨得珊瑚骨俾菌住可能max loading會細d喎:I

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Posted on: 2006-09-05 15:12

康仔 wrote:
fredfred wrote:
:~) 可能係大陸石掛, 尋晚發現有隻幾大既瀨尿蝦係石隆入面,俾我"了"左佢條屍出來添(碎埋), 我e+要幾耐換一次水好? 換幾多好? 青魔成日匿係缸面/角,正常嗎? 我e+成個初學者咁 :o)




青魔成日匿係缸面/角,應係好唔舒服係度捱緊,唔想佢地死最好換下水,換到NO2去番橙色起碼,因青魔好弱雞下NO2唔低番d都係食香多...照道理見你d石又係珊瑚骨底仲有好多紫苔應係好野黎格:?) 無乜理由NO2爆紅架喎...都係似裹面d生物死搞成咁...唯今之計都係只有換下水同等佢回落,同埋你個係半魚缸落番幾L生物環好似穩陣d,淨得珊瑚骨俾菌住可能max loading會細d喎:I




"落番幾L生物環好似穩陣d": 生物環會間接增加NO3, 咪制 B)

可能係太熱, 之前d石返來浸左一兩日先洗, 落缸又無水冷幾日成31-32度, 不過初初有d石起白膜已經退哂, 腥味亦退緊好多了, e+唯有換水, 同埋等啦。:~)

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Posted by: happygilmore
Posted on: 2006-09-08 12:40

[$#35831][$#38382]砂缸[$#20869]放了甚么?

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Posted on: 2006-09-08 19:28

happygilmore wrote:
[$#35831][$#38382]砂缸[$#20869]放了甚么?




係珊瑚粒來架 :D

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Posted by: happygilmore
Posted on: 2006-09-13 15:28

fredfred wrote:
happygilmore wrote:
[$#35831][$#38382]砂缸[$#20869]放了甚么?




係珊瑚粒來架 :D




多[$#35874]解答:D

另再[$#35831]教是否RT底缸的水流不需穿[$#36807][$#28388]材(例如珊瑚粒、[$#29615]等),
只需在珊瑚粒之上方流[$#36807]便可?:)
我的缸是否有[$#38382][$#39064],[$#28902]指�礞@��:)

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Posted on: 2006-09-13 17:33

hi 我係新手一名, 唔知識唔識答你, 盡量啦 :D 睇你個圖, 沙缸設計好大問題, 第2倉去第4倉再返第3倉上水, 變左d水流唔係自然流向, 要由第2倉谷上去第4倉, 未必夠力令上落水一致, 真正得唔得要試過水先知, 同埋d膠喉駁得好束, 會有頂泵情況, 個泵會好嘈, 而第2倉去第4倉走底上果條喉有事或塞左就大watt 好麻煩。如暫時補助方法, 唔要所有藍色喉(你既走法), 可以就咁加個潛水泵係第3倉, 由第3倉抽返去第4倉由底而上落返第3倉上水, 令第4倉d環有水流同氧份算了。不過我係你會做過個沙缸, 做番一般第4倉上水, 反正做個沙缸唔係貴, 走喉d工夫仲煩複, 風險大, 小數怕長計呀師父...

happygilmore,
唔好意思, 這裡本是小弟既開缸記錄, 希望記錄所有有關小弟既開缸問題同討論, 待日後參考研究改進。所以希望所有與本缸以外既討論, 可以另開題目研討, 謝謝幫忙。;)

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Posted by: happygilmore
Posted on: 2006-09-13 18:51

fredfred wrote:
hi 我係新手一名, 唔知識唔識答你, 盡量啦 :D 睇你個圖, 沙缸設計好大問題, 第2倉去第4倉再返第3倉上水, 變左d水流唔係自然流向, 要由第2倉谷上去第4倉, 未必夠力令上落水一致, 真正得唔得要試過水先知, 同埋d膠喉駁得好束, 會有頂泵情況, 個泵會好嘈, 而第2倉去第4倉走底上果條喉有事或塞左就大watt 好麻煩。如暫時補助方法, 唔要所有藍色喉(你既走法), 可以就咁加個潛水泵係第3倉, 由第3倉抽返去第4倉由底而上落返第3倉上水, 令第4倉d環有水流同氧份算了。不過我係你會做過個沙缸, 做番一般第4倉上水, 反正做個沙缸唔係貴, 走喉d工夫仲煩複, 風險大, 小數怕長計呀師父...

happygilmore,
唔好意思, 這裡本是小弟既開缸記錄, 希望記錄所有有關小弟既開缸問題同討論, 待日後參考研究改進。所以希望所有與本缸以外既討論, 可以另開題目研討, 謝謝幫忙。;)




多[$#35874]回复及意��:D
另,其�b我不明白[$#38401]下的底缸水流[$#27809]有穿[$#36807]珊瑚粒,而只在其上方流[$#36807]的目的,能否指�礞@�鵅H:D

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-09-13 19:20

happygilmore wrote:
fredfred wrote:
hi 我係新手一名, 唔知識唔識答你, 盡量啦 :D 睇你個圖, 沙缸設計好大問題, 第2倉去第4倉再返第3倉上水, 變左d水流唔係自然流向, 要由第2倉谷上去第4倉, 未必夠力令上落水一致, 真正得唔得要試過水先知, 同埋d膠喉駁得好束, 會有頂泵情況, 個泵會好嘈, 而第2倉去第4倉走底上果條喉有事或塞左就大watt 好麻煩。如暫時補助方法, 唔要所有藍色喉(你既走法), 可以就咁加個潛水泵係第3倉, 由第3倉抽返去第4倉由底而上落返第3倉上水, 令第4倉d環有水流同氧份算了。不過我係你會做過個沙缸, 做番一般第4倉上水, 反正做個沙缸唔係貴, 走喉d工夫仲煩複, 風險大, 小數怕長計呀師父...

happygilmore,
唔好意思, 這裡本是小弟既開缸記錄, 希望記錄所有有關小弟既開缸問題同討論, 待日後參考研究改進。所以希望所有與本缸以外既討論, 可以另開題目研討, 謝謝幫忙。;)




多[$#35874]回复及意��:D
另,其�b我不明白[$#38401]下的底缸水流[$#27809]有穿[$#36807]珊瑚粒,而只在其上方流[$#36807]的目的,能否指�礞@�鵅H:D




其實本想用DSB養草, 不過沙缸改矮左, 唯有用珊瑚粒, 如果用來養魚會積屎, 唔係好好, 不過對穩定pH有很大幫助。

專題參考:
http://www1.hksaltfish.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=69976

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Posted by: happygilmore
Posted on: 2006-09-14 10:53

fredfred wrote:
happygilmore wrote:
fredfred wrote:
hi 我係新手一名, 唔知識唔識答你, 盡量啦 :D 睇你個圖, 沙缸設計好大問題, 第2倉去第4倉再返第3倉上水, 變左d水流唔係自然流向, 要由第2倉谷上去第4倉, 未必夠力令上落水一致, 真正得唔得要試過水先知, 同埋d膠喉駁得好束, 會有頂泵情況, 個泵會好嘈, 而第2倉去第4倉走底上果條喉有事或塞左就大watt 好麻煩。如暫時補助方法, 唔要所有藍色喉(你既走法), 可以就咁加個潛水泵係第3倉, 由第3倉抽返去第4倉由底而上落返第3倉上水, 令第4倉d環有水流同氧份算了。不過我係你會做過個沙缸, 做番一般第4倉上水, 反正做個沙缸唔係貴, 走喉d工夫仲煩複, 風險大, 小數怕長計呀師父...

happygilmore,
唔好意思, 這裡本是小弟既開缸記錄, 希望記錄所有有關小弟既開缸問題同討論, 待日後參考研究改進。所以希望所有與本缸以外既討論, 可以另開題目研討, 謝謝幫忙。;)




多[$#35874]回复及意��:D
另,其�b我不明白[$#38401]下的底缸水流[$#27809]有穿[$#36807]珊瑚粒,而只在其上方流[$#36807]的目的,能否指�礞@�鵅H:D




其實本想用DSB養草, 不過沙缸改矮左, 唯有用珊瑚粒, 如果用來養魚會積屎, 唔係好好, 不過對穩定pH有很大幫助。

專題參考:
http://www1.hksaltfish.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=69976




多[$#35874]回复及指��:D
[$#38401]下解答了我以前D珊瑚及[$#36719]体[$#20026]何一直[$#20859]不好的疑惑,我�N�々W�茪漰麍漎�[$#20026]草缸,[$#35874][$#35874]!:D

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Posted on: 2006-09-24 23:46

好耐無updates, 進度一般, 係多左d魚仔同少少珊瑚 :D

最新面貌, d石砌過下, e+只係T5HO, 就快加鹵仔了。:P
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pbd8c5cda37252303d8f3b2fd188d80b0/ecd5a524.jpg[/img]

閃光燈效果
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pedb65835eb91c0d5b41d051ea52bed41/ecd5a522.jpg[/img]
捕光效果
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p3c1b94ce5e49542abfb0b54de711b708/ecd5a414.jpg[/img]
沙缸已改番用充水層+DSB 養草+Qtank(只可作開口+適應期用), 舊有藍珊瑚粒放左去第一倉。e+得條藍O bb, 怕佢咬珊瑚, 唔敢俾佢落缸! B)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pe1fd3256196fdf7063b3ff62891df0f3/ecd5a452.jpg[/img]
鈕扣 & 菇菇
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p3e734992a75d348a3d1751060bd62781/ecd5a411.jpg[/img]
鈕扣
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p19102cf127aca1f20c70e64278a59eec/ecd5a4fe.jpg[/img]
菇菇
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pc975f89cd76ff0a9a09511e015a6880b/ecd5a4d0.jpg[/img]
鈕扣
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pa906b402d95e093f348ab2155d3e6984/ecd5a4ce.jpg[/img]
管蟲, 有2條俾魚搞唔開 :!(
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p30e7c5de2c90836816dfa220283c39b0/ecd5a4af.jpg[/img]
六線龍
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p2a5449bf59757fb1ef361028b67ea478/ecd5a4ad.jpg[/img]
藍咀bb
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pf306ca91a3737c66ec825bc83194417b/ecd5a33c.jpg[/img]
三角黃吊仔
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p223de355323c78701a11823b9a9b5ea2/ecd5a49b.jpg[/img]
Again
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p4dc091e1b086d3eaaf446797ad11fdf9/ecd5a498.jpg[/img]
咆苔黃吊仔
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p5afb538491669eb1ba8ec3190011955f/ecd5a33b.jpg[/img]
養左成2年既開缸小丑 :D
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p902dac7f91da9ce323b5ac0a76c12fe4/ecd5a479.jpg[/img]
藍O bb, 沙缸坐監! :o)
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p8e9c76f46548a2a3236577e0a40463ff/ecd5a474.jpg[/img]
少少羽毛草 in Sump Tank
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p008d31d81cbb36069b37e8a350964df7/ecd5a462.jpg[/img]

暫時係咁多先....... :D

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Posted by: 沙嘩地級
Posted on: 2006-09-25 02:41

快D加珊瑚啦!個景砌得幾靚BOR

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Posted on: 2006-09-29 23:07

終於搞掂哂, 鹵仔裝好, 萬事俱備, 只欠money (加野) B)

照明系統:
IceCap HQI Double-End腳 燈罩 x 2
IceCap 250w 電子牛 x 2
Giesemann 250w 14000k Double-End 鹵素膽 x 2
Solarmax T5HO x 2 (460藍管+03藍管)
鴨記夾仔喉+藍LED x 1 (as Moon Light)

鹵仔吊威也行路軌
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pfde6c0b66fa4501c9cef8d5a7b31af45/ecc1baa3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p6ef4dc0fd57f790f1177c154b291f109/ecc1baa2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pc217c9fab049cfcc5063eaf970c5e8f6/ecc1baa0.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p95a6b17fe5821a643b62e583ed9e1b2d/ecc1baa1.jpg[/img][img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pe2a5f020b5728180267e9e1ec4a1aec3/ecc1ba93.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p1ae195720952f345d0f2c4073c448161/ecc1ba92.jpg[/img]
鴨記買既LED Moon Light, 絕對可以同來佬貨比下去 :P
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p16ec7ab7b940a9e411ebd0b7eb3668ee/ecc1ba8d.jpg[/img]
Moon Light 效果
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p0e88e559d08c45079a4f7c49c2cfe6da/ecc1ba8e.jpg[/img]

著了鹵仔後開始煲水, 再加多把橫流扇就應該完成..........無野搞以後點算:~)

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Posted by: teamsanwa
Posted on: 2006-09-29 23:13

fredfred wrote:
終於搞掂哂, 鹵仔裝好, 萬事俱備, 只欠money (加野) B)

照明系統:
IceCap HQI Double-End 燈罩 x 2
IceCap 250w 電子牛 x 2
Giesemann 250w 14000k Double-End 鹵素膽 x 2
Solarmax T5HO x 2 (460管+03管)
鴨記夾仔喉+藍LED x 1 (as Moon Light)

鹵仔吊威也行路軌
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pfde6c0b66fa4501c9cef8d5a7b31af45/ecc1baa3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p6ef4dc0fd57f790f1177c154b291f109/ecc1baa2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pc217c9fab049cfcc5063eaf970c5e8f6/ecc1baa0.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p95a6b17fe5821a643b62e583ed9e1b2d/ecc1baa1.jpg[/img][img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pe2a5f020b5728180267e9e1ec4a1aec3/ecc1ba93.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p1ae195720952f345d0f2c4073c448161/ecc1ba92.jpg[/img]
鴨記買既LED Moon Light, 絕對可以同來佬貨比下去 :P
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p16ec7ab7b940a9e411ebd0b7eb3668ee/ecc1ba8d.jpg[/img]
Moon Light 效果
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p0e88e559d08c45079a4f7c49c2cfe6da/ecc1ba8e.jpg[/img]

著了鹵仔後開始煲水, 再加多把橫流扇就應該完成..........無野搞以後點算:~)



擺位好企理^^
Moon Light 效果好正@@

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Posted by: housing
Posted on: 2006-09-30 00:13

請教 Moon Light 是5 Watt 強光藍色 LED 嗎?

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-09-30 01:46

housing wrote:
請教 Moon Light 是5 Watt 強光藍色 LED 嗎?




sorry我都唔清楚, 好似有十幾粒藍色LED, 連internal火牛, output幾多watt唔知, 最重要係"平"。:P

可能張相用捕光效果影, 出來好似強光咁, 其實幾靚架 |)

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Posted on: 2006-09-30 03:02

fredfred wrote:
housing wrote:
請教 Moon Light 是5 Watt 強光藍色 LED 嗎?




sorry我都唔清楚, 好似有十幾粒藍色LED, 連internal火牛, output幾多watt唔知, 最重要係"平"。:P

可能張相用捕光效果影, 出來好似強光咁, 其實幾靚架 |)




:P:P:P

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-10-06 00:26

updates
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/pea066d1eca197fa377c8c34f5a26a028/ecab0eee.jpg[/img]

Reefs and Corals
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/pe932bf5f1402ee5b279224a320e73272/ecab1f8e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/pf50dae64f818e4a57a301e46c693ac24/ecab1f84.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/pb932112003f6a98bf36233586948278e/ecab1f7c.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/p5d3cc601998683ae050d5bd717201da1/ecab1f76.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/p34a2e8da47c35ae604410800589028f7/ecab1f73.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/paff211ffb1fd300d746a3f80baeae5a2/ecab1f69.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/p409ff8f897db766caa005132e9f88f02/ecab1f68.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/p97b405cd7774548add75faa1150b7de7/ecab1f5e.jpg[/img]

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Posted on: 2006-10-06 00:31

New fishes
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/p8025973fde0971349f7847c772ba68cf/ecab203c.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/p4f3deeb6f900562d7cc50f860861f0ee/ecab200e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/p70b96af7e973541895d5834dfaf5c68d/ecab2010.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/p055ef5bcc64a84461c2668079378fbc3/ecab1ff3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/pd9a853a522860a9e91f1f914925c868f/ecab1fee.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid216/pb27ebd37802e7b0a5a877e54594f6218/ecab1fe3.jpg[/img]

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Posted by: 康仔
Posted on: 2006-10-06 09:22

靚:D 舊皮革仔係非洲皮:?) 條11間仙食唔食糧:?):P

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Posted by: wwki
Posted on: 2006-10-09 16:19

個缸好靚呀、但有D技術問題 ?
個水冷機放上櫃頂、連機連水都好重O下
其實穩唔穩陣、如果得我都想學你咁放。
THANKS

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Posted on: 2006-10-09 20:43

wwki wrote:
個缸好靚呀、但有D技術問題 ?
個水冷機放上櫃頂、連機連水都好重O下
其實穩唔穩陣、如果得我都想學你咁放。
THANKS




用拉爆打上天花板, 冷氣機都係咁吊, 我坐上去都仲得, 你話穩唔穩陣。不過d尺寸就要度得好準, 我就係預得太蚊險些捉蟲 |) 仲有你記得要預番d位散熱去風呀 :D

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Posted by: wwki
Posted on: 2006-10-10 12:01

唔該哂

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Posted by: Bono
Posted on: 2006-10-29 19:04

Hey ~ guy update ha gor tank la wai ~ :D

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-10-31 20:49

Bono wrote:
Hey ~ guy update ha gor tank la wai ~ :D




開缸時期無咩好影, 暫時亦無乜睇頭, 遲下先再update啦, 頂櫃個ventilation要改善, 但呢排行動不便, 無得搞, 要暫時停一停。:~)

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Posted by: Bono
Posted on: 2006-10-31 21:20

排便 不便 :O) ? :D

mud c ar ? add oil yo ~

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Posted by: ponpon01
Posted on: 2006-11-01 02:35

個景好正呀:P

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Posted by: haiven
Posted on: 2006-11-01 16:33

fredfred wrote:
終於搞掂哂, 鹵仔裝好, 萬事俱備, 只欠money (加野) B)

照明系統:
IceCap HQI Double-End腳 燈罩 x 2
IceCap 250w 電子牛 x 2
Giesemann 250w 14000k Double-End 鹵素膽 x 2
Solarmax T5HO x 2 (460藍管+03藍管)
鴨記夾仔喉+藍LED x 1 (as Moon Light)

鹵仔吊威也行路軌
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pfde6c0b66fa4501c9cef8d5a7b31af45/ecc1baa3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p6ef4dc0fd57f790f1177c154b291f109/ecc1baa2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pc217c9fab049cfcc5063eaf970c5e8f6/ecc1baa0.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p95a6b17fe5821a643b62e583ed9e1b2d/ecc1baa1.jpg[/img][img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/pe2a5f020b5728180267e9e1ec4a1aec3/ecc1ba93.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p1ae195720952f345d0f2c4073c448161/ecc1ba92.jpg[/img]
鴨記買既LED Moon Light, 絕對可以同來佬貨比下去 :P
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p16ec7ab7b940a9e411ebd0b7eb3668ee/ecc1ba8d.jpg[/img]
Moon Light 效果
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid215/p0e88e559d08c45079a4f7c49c2cfe6da/ecc1ba8e.jpg[/img]

著了鹵仔後開始煲水, 再加多把橫流扇就應該完成..........無野搞以後點算:~)




好正喎∼∼
"鹵仔吊威也行路軌 " 請問路軌在那裡買?包唔包埋轆轆轆架?個柜有無用鐵架頂住架?

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Posted by: 濠仔
Posted on: 2006-11-02 14:37

鴨記夾仔喉+藍LED x 1 (as Moon Light)

鴨記邊間幾多錢丫?

...個效果幾正咁喎

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Posted by: Bono
Posted on: 2006-11-02 22:21

第二段面向北右手面三四鐺黐住0既屋仔鐺都有得買
但記得試到隻牛可以推得起個12V LED (20粒) 膽先好收貨行人

夾仔喉 $35 ~ $50 (有好多model) Fredfred 用個隻最正 [img]http://www1.hksaltfish.com/phpbb/images/smiles/sm_good.gif[/img]
12V LED (20粒) $25 ~ $35

P.S. Fredfred 唔好介意為你代答, 因小自己都想學你做你呢個效果, 但因資料唔齊走0左三四轉 :(

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-11-04 01:27

haiven: 威也路軌全部DIY, 鋁路軌我係去FS對面既弼街附近, 橫街有間鋁金屬材料鋪買(自己買左轆仔先去配路軌), 轆仔五金舖搵, 威也好多地方都有, 我係鴨記買埋。:D

濠仔: 我係Bono講果間買架, 不過我就買AC既, 唔駛牛, 安全暫時無問題, 邊有咁易跳制。B)

Bono: 唔該哂! ;)

條11哥足1個月先byebye(今次最耐:D), 要再來過lu, 啡苔潮已過, 菁苔/紫苔漸現, 屎既屎, 留既留, 原來東x既魚最長命, e+又可以開始加多d野玩喇 :P

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-11-06 22:03

update 下個沙缸 :P
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/p39cf6ebd87d9f861f6ab7da11926e940/ec2b5104.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/p6b14dc7114f026b88c9fdf67a7bc9069/ec2b5103.jpg[/img]

呢舊非洲仔一見鍾情, 忍唔住帶佢返屋企 :P
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/p9e5d3621b48c1cfc52fc7e41c89d4db3/ec2b4aec.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/p7856496ea95687b7bc0e30d09a7d3c9a/ec2b4aed.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/p983b4269405e64713b015bce7acffd79/ec240b76.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/pe6d107e1b8329cc0697d513d8bd72dab/ec240b77.jpg[/img]
By the way.............
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/pfe02915b8aa9662cbd3b321efd40148a/ec240b1f.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/pbe621d064084965bd269c9253e11b697/ec240b21.jpg[/img]

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-11-24 00:03

開缸已幾個月頭, 都加左好多野, 今晚又心血來潮影下相, 初玩無乜經費同經驗, 唔靚唔好笑我d垃圾cheap野, 請多多包涵 :D

太平洋千手
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p9781f3f271ac61f673fcda6626053adc/ebef440f.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p9e28b2a7d96b9fe9cfe27ad6d592e67b/ebef440e.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p300a38a3bd0fc32e793555de70dad227/ebef440c.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p78d866412c0da15c3608606b80b85477/ebef4401.jpg[/img]
印尼千手 & 花紋蚌
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p8a3e00428f1b78b4c9bcbbb76de25886/ebef4421.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p6d5fdc74f8c78a310677111cf98dee5a/ebef4441.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p18c3f8f447f6b9e20eb6c63c5083d76e/ebef4423.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/pb4683e788f10a1059b44ac7d9756180d/ebef4424.jpg[/img]
花紋蚌
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p7faec3ec16b61107704aecac41c0a9f8/ebef43c5.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p8d56e78364e8c34ed496496290420b5a/ebef43c3.jpg[/img]
寶石花
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p4f69ad5f58f3ec20bf2ad926ced3b698/ebef43ed.jpg[/img]
大手星
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p09f74498b9fac7dbd08631dc07bee9ab/ebef441f.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/pfc9c6f8a13c6d198e9ffd9d354eecda7/ebef4412.jpg[/img]
分枝豬腰
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p3f25842afe1bf23e11e91fd695ac7bb2/ebef443f.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/pa4a1309e028d432c6f8a2f56fe0f1896/ebef4442.jpg[/img]
印尼皮革
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/pa9c3eedc3dba7d596ba5a5dd244d212a/ebef43e9.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p22c8aaf3b194cc1652605640694d44a5/ebef43e5.jpg[/img]
非洲仔
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p2d03d3e14e48f5ccc0b4dba9188d97ab/ebef43a9.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/pa4693f40eceadd82b68f69fb5740fe40/ebef43a4.jpg[/img]
菇石
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p26795479e22a402d7210f4b1eabd2a7a/ebef43d8.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p91897eca52e40fcd3fc5b9a22f16ce07/ebef43fb.jpg[/img]
鈕釦
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/p4002ba463149781634babff910cd6be8/ebef43bb.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/pe28fe324a1b2ce5bc9c86a0e3db87b22/ebef43ae.jpg[/img]
管蟲
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid219/pc48e4ba6f80e8f3ccdcb2c9a9d26d8b2/ebef43d9.jpg[/img]

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Posted by: alfred9394
Posted on: 2006-11-24 20:36

total 幾錢?? 器材+缸+櫃

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Posted by: lamlamlam
Posted on: 2006-12-18 12:14

呢舊非洲仔一見鍾情, 忍唔住帶佢返屋企 ...

May I ask where do you buy the 非洲仔 ? Mei Yan Yue has relocated but not sure where they move to ?
Thanks.
TH

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Posted on: 2006-12-31 01:23

alfred9394 wrote:
total 幾錢?? 器材+缸+櫃




sorry, 唔想係度談幾錢既問題, 有興趣落紅磡藍x球問下, thx!

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Posted by: fredfred
Posted on: 2006-12-31 01:26

lamlamlam wrote:
呢舊非洲仔一見鍾情, 忍唔住帶佢返屋企 ...

May I ask where do you buy the 非洲仔 ? Mei Yan Yue has relocated but not sure where they move to ?
Thanks.
TH




It bought from 海x使, and 美人搬左去以前海域舊址。

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Posted by: ponpon01
Posted on: 2006-12-31 06:24

好靚
唔知有冇全缸相呢:P:P

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