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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-02 10:54 各位高人我係新仔一名0岩0岩買0在個缸，（行過魚街0個間魚舖大減價買既，話係美國貨易養魚，後尾聽人地講話養唔到咸水魚0架:!(仲比佢屈0左幾誰千蚊）:!(:~) 唔知點樣先至可以養到咸水魚呢 請各位 前輩指點迷津 | |
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Posted by: sammy仔 Posted on: 2002-10-02 12:13 仔你唔好信嗰個什麼生物輪, 都唔掂嘅, 我都high咗幾千銀, 正一無良商人, 我諗你要加個外置canister filter, 內放bio-ring & ac, 買個化氮器, 佢嗰個什麼生物輪可以照用, 我依家都係咁, 應該養到下魚的. | |
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Posted by: haiven Posted on: 2002-10-02 12:46 唉，衰心急啦你∼∼ 重要買左幾千蚊野添呀，你都幾有米喎，咁你買左D乜丫？講黎聽下睇下用唔用得番∼∼ 要養咸水魚話難唔難話易唔易，除左器材外心機都好緊要，如果你係一時興起的話，就只需要缸一個，濾桶一個，化氮器一個，暖管及燈。缸你有啦，濾桶內放生物球（當然落埋硝化菌水啦），濾棉，化氮器一定唔少得啦，暖管計番你缸水容量，多水就大瓦D，燈就買光管得啦。 如果係有心機想長期玩的話，就唔係三言語搞得掂喇∼∼可先參考＜魚缸紀錄＞睇睇D前輩點玩先，選擇適合自己既方法才行事。我就睇左成年，而家先開缸。 記住，唔一定要買貴野先養到魚架。8D | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-02 14:22 唉.........!:( 連米缸都比埋佢0拉，飯都冇得開喇xx( 最慘就係打擊我既養魚熱誠嘛 而家就得個套缸同的沙沙石石暖管溫度計咁， 要加乜野又經濟又實惠又可以養到魚仔 買乜牌canister filter好的,又放的乜係裏面話 邊到買先至無咁易比人厄，好驚又中招呀:~)xx( sammy哥 請問你個缸加左你話0個的野都可以養到魚要用多幾呀可唔可以講多的你既經驗呀 :?) | |
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Posted by: haiven Posted on: 2002-10-02 16:44 幾千蚊得個套缸同暖管？究竟邊間買？講出黎等魚友們唔好乃野。 其實你買番個化氮器，一個濾桶都可以玩得架喇，化氮可買氣木的，因較平。 濾桶就睇你有幾多位啦，又唔知你個缸幾大，如果可以買個大D啦，可以濾多D水同放多D濾材丫痳，濾材方面離離去去咪又係果幾樣，濾棉呀生物球呀生物環呀咁羅，記得養好水先放魚呀，唔係你多多魚都死呀。 | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-02 17:03 唉...............:!( 0米 就係個間『愚』人碼頭囉真係如其名 前輩乜野係氣木呀 唔好怪我乜都唔識架 3尺缸用乜濾桶好:O) | |
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Posted by: sammy仔 Posted on: 2002-10-02 17:11 嗰間野係FS街頭同街尾都有一間, 用唔同名經營, 我買左一個, 養唔到魚, 佢話個缸唔夠大, 叫我再買一多個大d嘅,基於對珊瑚魚嘅情意結, 我就買多一個30吋嘅, 成2仟幾銀, 買左之後都唔掂, 後咪自己再加野(1個EHEIM CANISTER FILTER, 一個氣木化氮器, 一盒AUQA CHARGER, 1 L BIO-RING), 先養到魚, 最近佢又玩大減價, 搗到我足足high咗3仟幾銀 (共2個缸), 正一不法商人. 雖然唔係加咗好多錢先養到魚, 但係諗起用幾仟銀買個缸, 發夢都"責"醒...... | |
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Posted by: 白熊 Posted on: 2002-10-02 17:14 氣木 : 以前我叫佢"木氣石", 用木造再加個喉咀仔, 駁氣泵打氣時D泡好細好細既:) | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-02 17:34 係唔係我而家要加一個濾桶+濾材 一個泵+一舊氣木就ｏｋ喇 多多指教！！！ | |
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Posted by: 白熊 Posted on: 2002-10-02 17:54 氣木係化氮器(skimmer)既其中一件parts, 要定期換架, 你要買化氮器至真. 個氣泵就係要黎推哩個化氮器架, 咁會係最平既配搭. 仲有, 每件你要買既野都有平有貴, 睇注荷包, 我用緊既都係國產貨, 我覺得可以接受:) | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-02 18:03 咁係唔係我而家要加一個濾桶+濾材 一個skimmer+一個泵就ｏｋ喇:?) | |
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Posted by: 白熊 Posted on: 2002-10-02 18:50 係呀, 用注先啦, 你要買既野要配合你個缸既大細架(即係水既容量) 三尺缸, 200升咁上下啦, 買個流量1000~2000Litre/Hrs既瀘筒(純粹靠估):D | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-02 20:08 多謝各位前輩指教:D | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2002-10-02 20:51 我都係果間野買背境板 一用就甩油甩到阿媽都唔認得 D所謂美國進口假珊湖又係甩色 如果真的是進口，點解個盒乜野Mark都冇啊 唉 | |
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Posted by: haiven Posted on: 2002-10-02 21:56 最𧪄搞野就係佢門口大大張海報話咩全球第一生化乜Q過濾，舖入面就整個轆係度轉下轉下咁，D友仔睇到：嘩，好高科技喎，其實冇Q用∼∼又係搵你笨實∼∼:!( | |
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Posted by: able Posted on: 2002-10-02 22:26 Waterfish: 你既情況與我數年前非常相似,雖然大缸成功率比細缸高,但係所胃”美國貨”,單憑一個細小”生物輪,根本唔能夠提供足夠”[$#20124]硝酸鹽”即[$#35822]化菌去分解魚既排泄物,但可能在美觀上尚可接受固能吸引買家.如果係有心想長期養魚的話,我建議你多看有關書藉. 而用具應以價錢及實用為完則,貴既價錢唔一定係好既,因[$#29234]在商人角度方面只係賣貨,固應該去請教有養魚經驗既朋友. | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2002-10-02 22:36 佢大大隻字寫明原裝正版背境板 佢仲就出面有好多假野 佢呢D先至係正廠貨 真係多得佢唔少 背境板唔係話換就可以換過新的 總之呢兩間野專搵人錢 好多人入去比佢地的魚缸內的佈置呃左 大家小心 | |
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Posted by: haiven Posted on: 2002-10-02 23:03 哈哈哈哈 iwave，真係度度都見到你，又係講背景板，你噚唔噚D呀∼∼:D:D:D:D:D哈哈哈哈∼∼∼∼∼真係覺得你好鬼搞野∼∼ | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2002-10-02 23:11 haiven wrote: 哈哈哈哈 iwave，真係度度都見到你，又係講背景板，你噚唔噚D呀∼∼:D:D:D:D:D哈哈哈哈∼∼∼∼∼真係覺得你好鬼搞野∼∼ 呢個網度度都好睇啊嘛 (等我擦下鞋先) 講背境板係因為佢攪到我個缸成日有D油塊飄黎飄去 我頂啊 最後，你覺得我攪野好啦 見到我唔好走過黎同我攪野啊 "死"基佬 最後的最後 點啊，你個缸攪成點啊 | |
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Posted by: 瘋狂什魚人 Posted on: 2002-10-02 23:20 可能人地話缸頂上面技旗是美國，美國佬個個高所以做到魚缸得過高。:D8D:D8D | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-02 23:32 able : 而家笨過仲唔知咩，早知上o黎問左先啦，o米正如haiven講衰心急囉! 其實應該同佢宣傳o下，唔駛咁多無辜o既同好做waterfish都好囗o丫! | |
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Posted by: wtlam Posted on: 2002-10-03 01:58 waterfish Please see my tank | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2002-10-03 02:04 其實佢賣的貨咁，可以向消費者位元會投訴的嗎？ 聽講黑店都可以投訴的。 | |
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Posted by: wtlam Posted on: 2002-10-03 02:14 waterfish 我都係買𦴩呢個缸啊24" 唉......一句到尾..後悔 個輪唔可以話冇用,但上綱聽人講要幾年先有用 又冇位加skimmer,先後換𦴩三款先得 上綱睇原來好平only US$80(included shipment) 最大問題---漏水 上綱找到本manual of this tank, 知道活性Carbon only 1 month 1 time 我九月中開缸 買了一盒small size AC ($160), 廾磅生物石($25 per lb) & miniskimmer ($130) 放藍魔開缸, 二個星期完成n-cycle now have 籃圖, 藍紋, 古B, 火箭, 黃尾籃魔 x 2, 籃吊, 新娘, 藩茄 & purple點葵 If you want to save money and keep fish, no need to buy 濾桶 wo. I am also not to use 濾桶. Later sin la How about the size of your tank, can upload photos? | |
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Posted by: wtlam Posted on: 2002-10-03 02:15 >幻之終極真姚俊 聽人講好似有好多人投訴 但末知點 | |
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Posted by: 小魚兒 Posted on: 2002-10-03 03:31 各位社團兄弟, 既然大家都覺得呢間野甘唔掂,不如我地晒馬去踢場呢!:D:D:D:D 我諗到時都會有好野睇呀!!!:D:D:D:D:D | |
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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男 Posted on: 2002-10-03 03:45 一於要組團去 晒馬 晒馬 晒馬 晒馬 晒馬 晒馬 踢場 踢場 踢場 踢場 踢場 踢場 淋紅油仲好玩。 | |
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Posted by: haiven Posted on: 2002-10-03 09:20 iwave wrote: 最後，你覺得我攪野好啦 見到我唔好走過黎同我攪野啊 "死"基佬 咁都可以拉到死基佬度，會唔會牽強左少少呢∼文筆又唔通順∼∼唉∼寫過啦∼ | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-03 10:06 我以經打過比消委會o拉無用架，佢地話佢交足貨都耐佢唔何架:!( wtlam 我無DC Post唔到上黎，加碼就以經預左喇，死o拉仲話會漏水，呢間 野真係遺禍人間!:}) | |
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Posted by: KELVINWAN Posted on: 2002-10-03 10:09 waterfish 你都唔算啊, 我講個真人故事,你應該會開心的 我老板同你一樣不個佢買左個 36 吋連車位(唔係車位係個櫃) + 水草 + 魚 (十元十幾二十條), 送 暖管, ph test, 新水, ph 粉, 二氧化碳(三佰元個隻) 加個三元大魚網 包三個月內上黎三次look look 售價港幣約13,000.00 千期唔好笑, 有錢無罪, 無錢有理 如各位興趣call me, 打個7折比你,你都唔好想啊, 我會叫你唔好買. | |
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Posted by: sammy仔 Posted on: 2002-10-03 10:16 Kelvinwan, 咁間野有無送多個鎚仔比你老板? | |
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Posted by: recycled Posted on: 2002-10-03 13:36 hi.waterfish 唔使甘灰呀.錢唔花都花左啦,依家最重要是養好缸水先. 你有無買量度海水的鹽度計?量度自己缸水的咸度比重(1.023). 用兩三個星期時間養好(好氣菌)及(厭氣菌)先.真它器材等你養魚功力加厚先買都未遲.如有其它問題可多參巧這里(新人必讀)啦.:I 匆灰心,祝你開缸養魚成功.:):):) | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-03 22:23 多謝咁多位仁兄仁姊寶貴意見 若果我個缸可以養到魚仔到時post比大家睇睇丫:I | |
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Posted by: cyc Posted on: 2002-10-04 00:48 雀鯛(魔)類魚真係唔難養架！再以D心機就得架啦！ | |
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Posted by: sammy仔 Posted on: 2002-10-04 10:49 買條"三點白"試下水先, 這些"不死魚"可以頂得順high NO2. | |
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Posted by: ENDLESS Posted on: 2002-10-08 15:17 唉........明知呢兩間野..唔掂....點解重有咁多中招架?佢呢其分明就去哂d舊貨..倉底貨呢...重要比拾你地錢.......佢咪重多機會昆人.... | |
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Posted by: sammy仔 Posted on: 2002-10-08 15:40 換過另一角度來看, 佢地都有d歪理嘅, 咁多人經過佢地門口, 發覺養海水魚只係需要一個缸咁簡單, 好多人都會買個嚟試下養(當然, 之後極度後悔). 佢地對提起人們對海水魚嘅興趣都有貢獻嫁. :-) | |
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Posted by: Cynthia Posted on: 2002-10-08 18:14 ENDLESS wrote: 唉........明知呢兩間野..唔掂....點解重有咁多中招架?佢呢其分明就去哂d舊貨..倉底貨呢...重要比拾你地錢.......佢咪重多機會昆人.... I bought a 30" tank in late Sept at Fisherman's Wxxxx. :( They tried to pursuade me to buy the background as well (cost another $650). Of course I refused (the tank is only $808). Then they said there is no stock (tank without background) for the moment and new stock will only arrive in late Oct or early Nov. If they are trying to get rid of the old stuff, why they don't give me the tank right away??? I start to worry that they will soon close down.......xx( | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2002-10-08 18:22 咁妳取左缸未? 我其實好想買個別$666..但見佢個樣好似好想摺埋又冇現貨.. 我最後冇order到.. | |
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Posted by: godng Posted on: 2002-10-08 18:45 我係八月中開缸(廿吋),要兩個月先至完成個 N-cycle. 買缸既時候佢地又唔同你講咁多[$#22050],我都係要自己上綱睇先知仲有咁多[$#22050]要理. | |
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Posted by: Cynthia Posted on: 2002-10-08 18:58 iczfirz wrote: 咁妳取左缸未? 我其實好想買個別$666..但見佢個樣好似好想摺埋又冇現貨.. 我最後冇order到.. Not yet, they said new stock will only arrive in late Oct or early Nov. Since they've noted this in the invoice, I think I can only chase them by end of Oct, if they are not yet closed. | |
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Posted by: ENDLESS Posted on: 2002-10-08 19:44 但換多個角度睇..........比佢昆完d人.......覺得好唔抵同養海水魚是咁難養......打擊佢地0既信心...重易放棄啦......開呢個topic0既人以經係一好例子,好在佢係呢度問下各位高手姐....如果唔識問d人....咪灰哂心啦.......先苦後甜唔係個個受到架,d人個心咁碎,一攪唔掂......就話唔養啦....!香港人就係咁... | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2002-10-08 19:53 Cynthia.. 可唔可以打俾我..90419964 因為我都想同佢地買個666..但我想問清楚你d野先買..:D | |
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Posted by: ENDLESS Posted on: 2002-10-08 19:56 你都訂左啦....擔心都冇用啦...收貨時...睇清楚啦,我有個叔父佢買左一個後,後悔到不得了啦...佢本想一個缸攪掂.......但發覺完全唔掂...用左一year都唔得...化淡又加唔到......最佢又咪係要在缸外加一組梯級式過濾,加多2個泵,一個抽水出,一個抽水入,地方用多左,又谷氣.........:一句:『先生呢一套係最新款咸水缸,美國制,用一個活動車輪養菌,直接接觸空氣,使菌大量生產,保持最佳0既水質架!』就害死你啦!!!!!! | |
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Posted by: sumlam Posted on: 2002-10-08 23:14 各位高人,本人又係同一受害者,買了科學輪魚缸,剛2日,剛發現這網.原來才知被人呃.. 我現有一支暖管, 一個溫度表, 一個比重計, 除氯水, 硝水, 化學鹽, 我想問我還要買什麼配件才可以飼養, 請詳細列名... 最好平 d.... 謝!! 我而家已經養左兩日水, o個個老闆話要養十日水先可以養魚... 我仲應唔應該聽佢講? 有冇咩書好介紹? P.S. 1' x 2' x 2'6"(H) | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2002-10-08 23:45 個老細佢有冇叫你買多兩支硝化菌水呀? 佢仲有冇話叫你點落呀... 我有個friend佢落左之後成個星期都係白朦朦...佢去問個老細...個老細話係個系統唔夠行... 叫佢架多個呀:D:D 唉... 係魚街買野..小心d啦...最好問多d魚友先...魚店始終係生意地方... 你明架啦:}) | |
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Posted by: wtlam Posted on: 2002-10-08 23:51 >sumlam, 本人亦於上個月買了這個缸(24").如你沒有太多$$$，可以跟我做吧 先加一樽細AC($150 in Wanchai aquatech or chuen xx)，加一個skimmer (redsea miniskim) ($130 in tai po xx)，拿走藍色的棉加活性炭及改放厚漏棉。生物淪可以留低(因很多美國人都說它有用但需要幾年時間)。我在落水當天已放了一條黃尾藍魔，但佢冇事，活到現在。 我在兩星期就完成左個n-cycle(因有AC)。最近加多一個細沙樽(連power head買大約$220) (因不想太熱及太大)。 這個缸也可養到咸水魚的.只要不養太多就可以啦。 努力!! | |
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Posted by: wtlam Posted on: 2002-10-08 23:53 新相 | |
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Posted by: wtlam Posted on: 2002-10-09 00:07 現有 藍圈,番加,火鳥,小丑,企鵝古B,藍吊,醫生蝦x2,寄居蟹, 醫生魚,拳師蝦 | |
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Posted by: wtlam Posted on: 2002-10-09 00:22 仲有啊, 我想佢地唔係to be close law 因為呢個缸上綱訂都只係US$80(about HK$624)(24"tank),所以佢地應該仲有$$賺 | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2002-10-09 00:26 我喜歡果個不準釣魚牌 請問邊度買架 同埋貴唔貴架 | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2002-10-09 09:02 wtlam兄.. 我諗不久你就會掉左隻寄居蟹.. 因為實在太手多囉:D:D | |
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Posted by: sumlam Posted on: 2002-10-09 16:56 to:wtlam兄 what is (AC),我拿走藍色那過濾時活牲炭濺出來,缸水而家黑O左,係吾你要全缸換走,會吾會自己邊清.WHAT IS (N-CYCLE),我買了skimmer,還有什麼要買,最好係中文,多謝謝... | |
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Posted by: wtlam Posted on: 2002-10-09 23:13 >iwave 不準釣魚牌 only $10 in FS (生虫對面好舊個間鋪頭) 想放落溝女缸呀? >iczfirz yes ar 隻寄居蟹KO左隻電光蟹隻腳拉.又反左的石.xyzx佢丫 >sumlam AC=aqua charger,作用等如bio-ring但比bio-ring好,如想快就一定要用佢。 n-cycle = ?? 點知點解釋你廳,有冇人可以解釋或link出來, thanks 至於活牲炭,我找到本說明書,它說最多一個月放一就好,因活牲炭會吸走trace elements,另外你個魚缸有乜魚先? | |
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Posted by: Cynthia Posted on: 2002-10-09 23:57 Hi sumlam, 呢度 http://www.hk-fish.com/ 有解釋N-cycle 氮化合物循環 | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2002-10-10 00:11 另一個好[url=http://fishlibrary.uhome.net/knowledge/nitrogen_cycle.htm]地方[/url] | |
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Posted by: sumlam Posted on: 2002-10-10 18:42 唔該晒各位.但我魚缸d水很濁,內有藍魔x2,三點白x1,小醜x1,我是否應買一個濾筒,ac有冇中文,但我的魚缸很煩,因我叫那間(黑店)在缸內貼上很多假珊瑚冇地方放skimmer,濾筒,頭痛............................ | |
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Posted by: iwave Posted on: 2002-10-10 19:15 wtlam wrote: >iwave 不準釣魚牌 only $10 in FS (生虫對面好舊個間鋪頭) 想放落溝女缸呀? 我兩個缸都會擺 目的係比我果兩隻貓咪睇，叫佢地唔好咁多手 | |
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Posted by: cyc Posted on: 2002-10-11 01:05 sumlam : 用這個吧！可將混濁的水變清，好有效。 TROPICAL SCIENCE MARINE-CLEAN ($190) There are two bottles in the package, one is the Sludge&Debris Consuming Bacteria and one is the Oxygenating Bacteria Booster. | |
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Posted by: sumlam Posted on: 2002-10-16 21:37 to:waterfish 想問你而家養到魚嗎,我亦是同你一樣是受害者,想知要點樣setup,大家交流下.......... | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-17 22:02 to sumlam: 我而家養緊水，重未養得魚住，我而家唔用佢個過濾，買左個eheim濾筒 ，再放左20lb生物石，No2 同No3都好低啦，相信下星期可以放魚la:D | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-17 22:10 to sumlam 我唔記得講我個濾筒都有放AC（aqua-chargers）係網上睇到d魚友推介話可以快d完成N-cycle，我係川河買，不過而家無細樽，得番大樽$360;) | |
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Posted by: sumlam Posted on: 2002-10-18 17:28 you eheim濾筒 how big and how much... | |
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Posted by: waterfish Posted on: 2002-10-18 18:27 我買個隻係2229up to 600l 系x流買$1700 其實生蟲同大隻蕉仲平$1650 如果買𩓚2227就系x流平d$1270 | |
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