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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-10 02:08 Any one can help ?? i am new to this .. i don't understand about this.... coz the tank was my dad's toy but i wish to help help him (he is new as well) .... any one can help me about this ?? | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2005-11-10 09:58 缸水新成咁.. 苔都未出d.. 等下啦.. 乜都唔好搞.. 咸度ok.. 光度有就得... 唔好搞但都要搞既就係執下d石陣.. 太多死生冇流.. 加多好幾個泵.. 滴流位個格仔好易會俾魚魚走入去.. 搞搞佢. 你係咪岩岩開燈就映? 另外果d草頭小心d... 如果唔係.. 一生開就好弊.. 好難[$#28152]理.. | |
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Posted by: kurtkurt Posted on: 2005-11-10 12:56 夠唔夠氧呀??? 新水有冇打氣除氯? ORP幾多有冇得check呀? | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-10 13:07 我真的是新仔一名, 我interest 想試, 這些小魚是爸拿來試水.... 今早一起身己有幾條魚魚走入去................ 死左.... 想間好多野.... 用以下的可以嗎?? $30000 full set... 是否太貴??? included coral. | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-10 13:10 inside | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-10 13:11 This for open tank !! | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-10 13:17 旺角海皇好嗎?? 在那買的?? 和想買Long Hand Gloves where to buy ?? 280 at 海皇 i think too expensive ar... and most coral is like 3xx is it too expensive ?? and 水冷... set 25 Temp ? | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-10 13:18 草頭 is this ? | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-10 14:19 缸裹珊瑚有毒嗎??? | |
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Posted by: kurtkurt Posted on: 2005-11-10 15:23 三萬貴了些啦 缸內珊瑚對人冇問題, 不過習慣帶手套接觸好, 有傷口一定唔惦得 沙缸尾倉有死水位設計唔理想 | |
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Posted by: kurtkurt Posted on: 2005-11-10 15:28 nakata009 wrote: 旺角海皇好嗎?? 在那買的?? 和想買Long Hand Gloves where to buy ?? 280 at 海皇 i think too expensive ar... and most coral is like 3xx is it too expensive ?? and 水冷... set 25 Temp ? 珊瑚一般都set 25度 Long Hand Gloves 唔好買住養好現在那些先啦 切記RT缸唔好養咁多魚 海皇...... | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2005-11-10 16:10 下 ~ 你個套缸係 "海皇" 造架 ? xx(xx(xx(xx( 弓沙缸 d 喉你你自己整定係佢地幫你整架 ~~~~~~~ xx(xx(xx(xx( B) 睇到弓樣都幾牙煙 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 個缸咩呎寸 ? 睇你缸入面 d 石白白淨淨, 好似無生物係入面喎, 唔係 "生物石" ~ 如果照得多會起好多啡苔 ~~~小心 ! 養 reef 唔會用無生物既生物石做內系統過濾 ~ 即係 ~ 毛用 ! 沙缸細, 個過濾要做得好 d, 即係時常要睇實 ! 主缸水流唔多夠, 好多死位, 水唔流通, 造成死水, 養死水, 壞水 ~ 你個缸係唔係得上面有去水呀 ? 個滴漏槽即係造上滴漏啦 ? 即係缸水近底部既 dirty thing 好難抽到上上面個落水 ~ 要攪攪佢個水循環先至會好 ! | |
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Posted by: kurtkurt Posted on: 2005-11-10 16:35 qqleo wrote: 下 ~ 你個套缸係 "海皇" 造架 ? xx(xx(xx(xx( 弓沙缸 d 喉你你自己整定係佢地幫你整架 ~~~~~~~ xx(xx(xx(xx( B) 睇到弓樣都幾牙煙 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 個缸咩呎寸 ? 睇你缸入面 d 石白白淨淨, 好似無生物係入面喎, 唔係 "生物石" ~ 如果照得多會起好多啡苔 ~~~小心 ! 養 reef 唔會用無生物既生物石做內系統過濾 ~ 即係 ~ 毛用 ! 沙缸細, 個過濾要做得好 d, 即係時常要睇實 ! 主缸水流唔多夠, 好多死位, 水唔流通, 造成死水, 養死水, 壞水 ~ 你個缸係唔係得上面有去水呀 ? 個滴漏槽即係造上滴漏啦 ? 即係缸水近底部既 dirty thing 好難抽到上上面個落水 ~ 要攪攪佢個水循環先至會好 ! B) B) B) RT仲有大把野要改 | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2005-11-10 16:37 kurtkurt wrote: qqleo wrote: 下 ~ 你個套缸係 "海皇" 造架 ? xx(xx(xx(xx( 弓沙缸 d 喉你你自己整定係佢地幫你整架 ~~~~~~~ xx(xx(xx(xx( B) 睇到弓樣都幾牙煙 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 個缸咩呎寸 ? 睇你缸入面 d 石白白淨淨, 好似無生物係入面喎, 唔係 "生物石" ~ 如果照得多會起好多啡苔 ~~~小心 ! 養 reef 唔會用無生物既生物石做內系統過濾 ~ 即係 ~ 毛用 ! 沙缸細, 個過濾要做得好 d, 即係時常要睇實 ! 主缸水流唔多夠, 好多死位, 水唔流通, 造成死水, 養死水, 壞水 ~ 你個缸係唔係得上面有去水呀 ? 個滴漏槽即係造上滴漏啦 ? 即係缸水近底部既 dirty thing 好難抽到上上面個落水 ~ 要攪攪佢個水循環先至會好 ! B) B) B) RT仲有大把野要改 $30,000 ~~~~~~~~~~ 哇 ! 個 skimmer 好似係 weipro 喎 :( | |
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Posted by: 白熊 Posted on: 2005-11-10 17:29 早知我接黎做啦.... 以三皮野黎計..... 無理由仲係比死石.... 咁快落生物....我批兩個月內gameover, 咁又可以再買過一批生物, 仲乜唔搵我幫手, 等我賺返筆.... 個化氮真係雞....我有個白熊牌, 包你滿意:P 個缸似乎只有三尺咁上下...咋喎..... 個泵似乎係大陸野....唔用iwaki都用powerjet 啦..... 唉~ 貨比三家, 點解唔問左先去馬? 早D問我, 我會話要五皮野....咁可以搵石頭大師幫我簡部HDV:P:D | |
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Posted by: kurtkurt Posted on: 2005-11-10 17:44 可以的話忘記啦, 多些上來你會成功得多仲可以save好多M.呀 ;) ;) ;) | |
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Posted by: kevinc Posted on: 2005-11-10 17:57 慘....又衰多一件...同病相憐!!! 其實如果可以的話，等多ｄ人上來個ｓｉｔｅ睇多ｄ先去馬，會好好多，呢度好多高手架！！ 叫你爸爸聽下人講唔好再落野，費事WASTE錢外又整死哂ｄ野！！ | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2005-11-10 22:33 白熊 wrote: 早D問我, 我會話要五皮野....咁可以搵石頭大師幫我簡部HDV:P:D 二一添作五呀 ! ! ! ! :) | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2005-11-10 22:34 kevinc wrote: 慘....又衰多一件...同病相憐!!! 其實如果可以的話，等多ｄ人上來個ｓｉｔｅ睇多ｄ先去馬，會好好多，呢度好多高手架！！ 叫你爸爸聽下人講唔好再落野，費事WASTE錢外又整死哂ｄ野！！ 查實上網係可以搵到好多資料, 只要唔怕出聲就自然會有人會答 (如果答到既話) ! | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-11 04:16 個缸原先無design 放那的, 因風水問題.....我在不知情下他已決定買... 個缸係 39inch length x 14inch width x 30inch height 海皇說係生物石...唔知真定假 Pipe-海皇做! 水養左10日先放Coral. 只有一個上去水(到下面沙缸) 去水放左黑球(放滿條去水) 一個泵only.... (是否真的要加泵在主缸底) ? 珊瑚location可以嗎? 現在已有魚仔屍在過濾是否要立刻清?? 想問有什麼𠲖家立刻加??? 唔想老豆waste $30000---- 十分多謝你們的幫助 !!! Thank you so much!!! Anyone brother may display their tank for example ? sorry i cannot type chinese (only write on write pad) so chinese wording are ... | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2005-11-11 09:56 個缸原先無design 放那的, 因風水問題.....我在不知情下他已決定買... ~~ 呵 個缸係 39inch length x 14inch width x 30inch height ~~ 約 250 升水 海皇說係生物石...唔知真定假 ~~ 生物石就係生物石, 不過係 "無生物" 既生物石姐B)B) Pipe-海皇做 ~~ B)B) 水養左10日先放Coral.~~ 典養法先 ????? 有無 test 過 no2 / no3 呢 d 讀數 ? 只有一個上去水(到下面沙缸) 去水放左黑球(放滿條去水) ~~ 可以 一個泵only.... (是否真的要加泵在主缸底) ? ~~ 如果唔加泵, d 水落左去點抽番上主缸呢又 ? 所以係要既 ! 珊瑚location可以嗎? ~~ 好亂, 好多死水位, 唔流暢囉 ! 現在已有魚仔屍在過濾是否要立刻清?? ~~ 係, 唔清理會令水質變壞 ! 想問有什麼𠲖家立刻加??? 唔想老豆waste $30000 ---- 加就暫時都無咩野加啦, 可以參巧其他魚友 reef 缸既擺放方法放好 d 石 & 珊瑚啦, 加多個潛水泵係主缸右面中下位做水流吹石後面啦, 會對缸水有好處 ! | |
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Posted by: 白熊 Posted on: 2005-11-11 10:50 qqleo wrote: 白熊 wrote: 早D問我, 我會話要五皮野....咁可以搵石頭大師幫我簡部HDV:P:D 二一添作五呀 ! ! ! ! :) 好呀, 有五皮野一人一部HDV再開埋個3呎缸都夠喎...你仲駛唔駛買鏡:P 死火, 開左店舖名架, 唔講野囉....... | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2005-11-11 11:29 白熊 wrote: 好呀, 有五皮野一人一部HDV再開埋個3呎缸都夠喎...你仲駛唔駛買鏡:P 死火, [[[[[[[[[[[[開左店舖名架]]]]]]]]]]]]] 唔講野囉....... 怕咩 ~ 係好既就唔怕俾人講 ~ 出面都有個 POST 講 "黑店" 架 ! 放心 HDV 我唔岩喎, 鏡我齊 + 夠用啦 ~ 至多都係加多幾條小丑我就知足架啦 :) 次次養到開口就俾 舊 果兩條咬死 !!!! 之後就成班魚係度開餐 ~ 丁頁 !xx(xx(xx( | |
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Posted by: cmtsui Posted on: 2005-11-11 12:49 買d tester check 下水質啦．．你就明點解．．．老實講仲有排你驚... | |
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Posted by: 岩礁園丁 Posted on: 2005-11-11 13:47 未來預測, 缸中生物將會大部份或全部陸續死亡, 呢點你要接受.... 原因不是硬件設備問題, 而係你完全未掌握對海水缸飼養的入門基本認識.... 雖則, 玩海水缸不是太難, 但一些基本認識仍是不可決少的... 用些時間番閱我們 "新人必讀" 的舊post, 你會發覺, 很多新人撞板多多, 問題成蘿, 而那些新人, 他們的認知及經驗都不比你少, 那可想而知, 要成功入門, 尚有一段路要行的..... 不管現有設備是好是壞, 總會有個合適方法養得到的, 只是技術問題而已. 現在你最需要做的, 就是學習. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 再說說這套缸是否物有所值, 那是觀點角度問題, 如果自己動手建造, 花費當然會慳一大截, 但那是需要大量工程常識, 水流學問與及其他垃垃雜雜的資料, 工具等....而這些能力, 也是要經交了很多 [ 學費 ](抱括時間金錢心力) 才得來的, 承造商收你這個價錢, 當然也包括這些尊業知識及技術的成本價值. [$#25831]個例, 一個醫生與一個餅店售貨員的[時薪], 是不可同日而諭的... | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2005-11-11 14:04 岩礁園丁 wrote: 現在你最需要做的, 就是學習. + [接受個結果 (生物死亡)] | |
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Posted by: kurtkurt Posted on: 2005-11-11 14:14 反一次水明天會更好 可能轉FOT好D :}) :}) :}) | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-11 17:50 ok well now i understand more about the tank .. so will accept coral will die later .. but just want to ask .. how long will it start happening ? possible to keep these alife now ? Please DOCTERS>>>>> or any suggest any of the reefs are easy feed by beginners ? (for replace reef is die) Thank you so much. | |
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Posted by: 岩礁園丁 Posted on: 2005-11-11 18:17 你個缸開左幾多日 ? | |
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Posted by: cmtsui Posted on: 2005-11-12 17:02 nakata009 wrote: ok well now i understand more about the tank .. so will accept coral will die later .. but just want to ask .. how long will it start happening ? possible to keep these alife now ? Please DOCTERS>>>>> or any suggest any of the reefs are easy feed by beginners ? (for replace reef is die) Thank you so much. how long it will start happening ?? d 野唔開,仲收埋晒咪已經start 左啦．． possible to keep these alife now ? ? 一兩日如果你搞得掂既可以．．．不過事情唔你想咁easy 易養既coral 有 菇，鈕扣，皮革，腦，草皮，手指，提子...... | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-13 05:09 手指有黑點,是否已步向死亡?? 我好鐘意[$#40644]手指的...... 可救嗎??? | |
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Posted by: goodmen Posted on: 2005-11-15 15:43 [$#36825][$#40060]缸的[$#35774][$#20475]......似乎只[$#23646]一般FOT[$#36136]素.....不到一半价[$#38065]就可完工....死石[$#24320]缸就不可能十天八天的事.....三[$#20010]月[$#24212][$#35813]走不了 | |
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Posted by: fishfish819 Posted on: 2005-11-15 23:30 嘩,原來海皇食水咁深ka!!!!!!!!!個缸又吾[$#21946]大! 點解得14吋咁窄:?) [$#21874]喉咁整法:?)[$#20010]水流泵出水要經[$#20010]10[$#20010]曲以上才返回缸中,水蛇春咁長又咁多曲.就算大力泵都[$#21464]冇尿力.吾知你[$#20010]泵有幾大力呢:?) 仲有[$#20010][$#21874]死石,算吧la. 3-4[$#20010]月后就可以有生物了. [$#20010]缸最大問題是水流.水流由水面流出.又從水面流入沙缸中.魚缸中層及底層便沒有水流,吾夠氧的.一定要改. 1/ 吧出水喉加[$#20010]分[$#20041],接入到缸的底層,[$#21464]成2[$#20010]出水口,上的吹水面,下的吹水底. 上出水口要加呷制較水流. 2/ 直接吧出水口接入缸底吹. 3/ 在缸底加[$#20010]水流pump分別吹水及吹向水面. 最后喚去入水口那些格仔,格太大,魚毛會走入去.xx(xx(xx( | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2005-11-16 10:07 魚友講得好岩, 個缸真係問題多多, 除了生物不計外, 缸及整體的循環及過濾都有問題, 而且個設計似FOT多於RT。 講主缸的設計, 出水口太少引致魚缸產生好多死水位, 呢個出水口問題同底缸個九曲十三彎既上水有極大關係, 所以我諗個主缸既水流都唔會太強。而且, RT最重要的是亂流, 建議你將出水口增加多幾個, 讓水流平均D, 如果加唔到出水口也要跟魚友所講, 加潛水泵造流。 看圖 你個主缸現時得紅圈一個出水口, 建議將上水條硬喉刁開, 最少在黃圈位置加多兩個出水口, 如何駁喉可請教水喉舖, 如利可保個老細好肯教人既, 或者搜尋下舊文。 | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2005-11-16 10:25 講講底缸 有幾個問題 --水流既走法幾怪雞, 尾倉冇滴漏效果 --基本上第二倉受尾倉上水影響, 水位幾低, 紅圈內既生物環浸唔到水, 咁有咩用? --上水曲位太多, 分散了上水泵既揚程, 上水應唔係咁夠力, 用耐左個泵會更加冇力, 到時上水好似細路痾尿咁, 過濾既循環會顯得極度不足 --上水條硬喉太粗, 又係會減弱上水力度 建議 --紅色去水冷個截喉唔要佢, 改為用多一個潛水泵去推水冷, 但若上水泵夠力既話, 係上水條喉刁開去水冷再回流底缸(唔明既話參考下其它魚友既設計, 係魚缸記錄度有好多) --藍色個截係上水, 將硬喉改為軟喉減少曲位 --在尾倉黐多塊玻璃, 讓水流的走法正常D(黃箭咀), 黐玻璃唔算太難, 問題係點截流等玻璃膠乾 | |
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Posted by: 白熊 Posted on: 2005-11-16 11:14 接注PP-HK吹多兩咀:P 用個透明膠箱裝注個泵, 咁咪唔駛粘玻璃囉:D 再睇清楚...點解咁失敗xx(......玻璃全部齊頂既:O), 第一倉如果D綿污衊.....咁.....你往係邊? 我買定十套八套地拖水桶[$#21709]你門口高價賣比你:P:D | |
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Posted by: iczfirz Posted on: 2005-11-16 11:16 換左個沙缸佢穩陣d.. 佢個頭倉間倉果塊玻璃痴到上頂.... d白綿如果耐左唔記得換過水唔夠快時.. 缸主就要拎定地拖出黎做野都得... 如果冇估錯.. 個櫃本身係有塊板係中間頂住.. 依家係拆左.. 要諗諗本身呢個改動係咪頂到個缸... | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2005-11-16 12:03 唉! 個底缸設計成咁, 頂頂呢個我都睇到, 不過唔想嚇親新魚友。 熊熊, 個呢招好得喎, 係咪諗左幾日幾夜去改造長缸呢? 順口提提, 你幫我同湯米攪個單混吉自遊行點進度呢? | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-18 23:24 This photo was took on the date 15-11-2005, is about the same as today only 2 more coral gone past out...... nevemind more green weed on the rocks. and i have brought some testers and found the result was . PO4 5.0 NO2 5.0 NO3 40 how can i reduce now all the values now ? anything can buy to help and i believed that some pump will be need later. | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2005-11-19 00:39 有咁跨係咪呀? NO2成5, 一般到1都好高LA, 想唔死都幾難o羅。 | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-19 11:44 i understand all values should be close to 0 is the best la. so i want to ask what i can add so that the value may drop ??? will post the most recent photo online tonight !!! | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2005-11-19 12:23 個缸既設計有先天性問題, 最好攪攪佢。D石未有生物, 得個等字。 | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-19 21:18 Here is the most updated Photo ! well may i ask how could we know the 石有生物?? and do i have to do something to reduce the NO2 now? anything good to buy ? | |
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Posted by: fishfish819 Posted on: 2005-11-22 00:23 At the moment, there is no need to reduce the high NO2. In a new tank, It must pass a peroid of high NO2 for the first 2-3 weeks. After that peroid, (mostly 3 weeks later), The NO2 will lower down automaticly and then the NO3 will rise up. So you just don't add any more fish or more coral now. What must do now is the change current flow in the tank and exchange the bottom tank as many fish friend have told you to do. I was wonder what a totally wrong design of the bottom tank and the pipe connection. If you don't want to exchange the bottom tank, you may simply cut out the first partion glass in the first chamber. At least you will not get a drown floor. | |
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Posted by: goodmen Posted on: 2005-11-22 16:31 唔...說得對...可惜水喉位包住整個砂缸....想取出砂缸修改並不容易....一定會破壞[$#21409]先設計.....而且重新駁喉會有滲水之嫌.....四個大字....失敗之作.....xx( | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-25 16:22 i understand to take out the tank is a big project. but the installation guy did something good at the end . the pipe can unplug easily, it shouldn't be a problem to remove the tank and do some alteration. And now days the fish and coral start getting better i think. didn't go dying now. seems working better and i have kept testing the values, No2 No3 Po4 the values change all the time. so i went to Monkok ask others, they told me to wait ... so i believed i will keep it as it is for now. but i will try to change the first section see see can cut a bit of glass... it FLOOD a few times.. and wet my cupboard. (plus other expensive things ;( POOR ME>>>>>>> | |
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Posted by: goodmen Posted on: 2005-11-25 19:46 May be la.......good wish to you.....and becarefull of glass.....switch off and unplug all equipment before working... | |
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Posted by: monkey Posted on: 2005-11-25 22:42 看完後先發覺海皇真冇人性,都唔知佢[$#28857]養reef, 5k都畀多[$#21655]. | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-28 03:41 Fish Now with White Dots.. seems not healthy ... whats wrong this time ?? Fish with White dot will going to die ? values change all the time.. i mean No2 No3 Po4 not stable... btw about the pump, my pump is 6000L/hr is it enough for use now ? | |
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Posted by: goodmen Posted on: 2005-11-28 22:58 Fish get sick mainly concerned about temp,water quality,decaying organic matter,newest fish not adapt to bad environment. ICH can easy to kill with copper base treatment with temp reach 30C...however it does not mean that forever....every tank water change to bad and disease came back again... element reading not stable may be : 1. tester too old or not clean before. 2. in-tank water flow not enough to everywhere, there are some 'dead water scope. 3, filtration process had not been well developed, take time.. powerhead beyound the 4000L/h is suitable... | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-11-28 23:15 today i did the water test again. Values are No2 0.25 No3 20 Po4 5 is this alright now ? start getting good.. because the coral have stopped dying. i wish to try add some new Coral, any preferred coral easy to live and cheap ? Should i add all at once or adding in few times ? | |
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Posted by: fot Posted on: 2005-11-29 00:14 rt 缸既讀數最好係no3同po4都係0 | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-12-03 14:48 sorry ar these days getting busy so reply have become slow. back to the question, my tank is not just RT, now with small fish. May i ask to get some doctor prawn, and doctor fish would clear the white dot ? fish seems living ok in my tank now. should i remove some rocks to provide more space for the fish? and get some more ? | |
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Posted by: kurtkurt Posted on: 2005-12-05 12:19 nakata009 wrote: sorry ar these days getting busy so reply have become slow. back to the question, my tank is not just RT, now with small fish. May i ask to get some doctor prawn, and doctor fish would clear the white dot ? fish seems living ok in my tank now. should i remove some rocks to provide more space for the fish? and get some more ? 醫生咩都係醫唔到缸中白點呀, 點ok呀身体冇白點/呼吸平和/搶食/......有冇相呀 石就千萬不要再移動呀, 移有機會再發病 其實有冇考慮一不做二不休換沙缸呢 | |
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Posted by: goodmen Posted on: 2005-12-05 20:26 Right....doctor prawn and doctor fish always made you "feel like doctor".....but not really cure the ICH.....the diease is deep in skin not you can see just the "white spot"....... doctor fish has no longer survived in tank since hard to accommodation with others.....while doctor prawn is going to take fish food instead of eating "white spot" with some day.... | |
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Posted by: ahchung Posted on: 2005-12-06 16:04 This is the first time I see a reef tank with PO4 = 5... I think the quality of the dead rocks are very poor. | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-12-12 01:55 Today, really sad. telling the truth !! Most of the fish have died... only two newly added fish survived. but seems going to die soon as well. No hope.... now i am going to wait do nothing . Reefs the other way around getting good. and living well. fish will not think now lu........ | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-12-12 02:08 kurtkurt wrote: nakata009 wrote: sorry ar these days getting busy so reply have become slow. back to the question, my tank is not just RT, now with small fish. May i ask to get some doctor prawn, and doctor fish would clear the white dot ? fish seems living ok in my tank now. should i remove some rocks to provide more space for the fish? and get some more ? 醫生咩都係醫唔到缸中白點呀, 點ok呀身体冇白點/呼吸平和/搶食/......有冇相呀 石就千萬不要再移動呀, 移有機會再發病 其實有冇考慮一不做二不休換沙缸呢 what u mean by 換沙缸 ? change all sand ? or everything inside the Main Tank ? or the Bio Tank ? | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-12-12 02:09 ahchung wrote: This is the first time I see a reef tank with PO4 = 5... I think the quality of the dead rocks are very poor. It is droping. but which level is healthy ? I believed the rocks are all DEAD rocks !!!!! I am so angry about the place i brough the tank. they still left me few cover parts for my tank !!!! | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-12-12 02:10 goodmen wrote: Right....doctor prawn and doctor fish always made you "feel like doctor".....but not really cure the ICH.....the diease is deep in skin not you can see just the "white spot"....... doctor fish has no longer survived in tank since hard to accommodation with others.....while doctor prawn is going to take fish food instead of eating "white spot" with some day.... Doctor Prawn die on the 2nd day. Doctor Fish die on the 4th day. they do nothing. | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2005-12-12 10:39 沙缸=底缸=滴漏缸, 唔同叫法姐。 就如好多魚友有提過, 你個缸最好都係換過d架生, 眼前花費幾百元未必多過將來購買生物既錢, 況且玩落去點都會同魚魚有感情嫁, 你都希望它們有個良好的環境姐。 no2及no3看似改善但全缸覆沒, 代表了魚缸的狀態甚不穩定, 況且短期的no2下降不代表魚缸成熟, 可能根本它都未起菌, 有冇check過nh3呢? 毒性最強係佢喎。 事實上買左死石冇辦法去改變佢, 本來都可以買番幾舊生物石去幫手活化佢地, 但係而家個缸既狀態咁唔穩定, 我就唔建議住, 否則連生物石都死埋個缸即反都似。xx( 唔改硬件既話, 唯有等個缸成熟, 建議加一條強健的藍魔作開缸死士, 其它生物就唔好加住, 一定要忍手! 期間密切check水的讀數, 待穩定後才逐一逐一的加。但緊記由於個缸既設計問題, 加野一定要小心同切忌心急, 千祈唔好見人地個缸加野你又加, 正如身子弱就唔好亂去蒲既道理。8D 見你個缸花費咁多但得出咁結果, 都有點替你不值, 如果真係有心玩, 不如找幾個熱心的魚友幫手攪攪佢啦, 唔果你住得唔係太遠既話, 我都可以既。;) | |
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Posted by: deechand Posted on: 2005-12-13 23:06 "沙缸=底缸=滴漏缸, 唔同叫法姐。" 這句有問題, "沙缸"係底缸的種,"滴漏缸"唔一定= "沙缸", "滴漏缸"應該係指落水槽黑波o個個. :D | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2005-12-14 00:45 o個個唔係叫做滴漏槽咩? 乜都好啦, 最緊要明白。;) | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-12-16 17:37 Thank you you ar PP-HK, you have help me alot. and that now all fish except one survived. well i think i will do what as you told leave it first for 1month keep checking and let the tank to be stable. btw may i ask how long will i need to add salt ? becoz the salt value varies all the time and going lower and lower !!.. (i have added little and little all the time to maintain the value) just want to ask is 2 weeks per add(salt) normal or not ? | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2005-12-16 18:17 咁奇怪, 唔係換水基本上唔駛加鹽個喎, 由於水份蒸發的緣故, 魚缸水的鹽度通常只會升高, 一般加番淡水就可以, 點解你個缸會掉轉? | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-12-21 00:16 I still not sure how to stable my tank. is waiting the only method ? and how long do i have to wait ? do you suggest i take out some of the rocks ? and is it possible change to Fish Tank instead of Coral Tank ? because if its the tank design problem, coral keep dying it not use to fill the coral and let the money throw into the bin. if i change to just feed fish ? is it possible and will i need to change the bio filter or add some equipment ? | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2005-12-25 21:39 May i ask is this possible ? | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2006-01-08 23:28 Here is the latest Photo of my tank after 2months time.... please check and compair with previous photo !!! | |
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Posted by: 七仔 Posted on: 2006-01-09 02:15 in view of my point, you still need to take a long time if you don't change rock. | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2006-01-09 15:57 nakata009 wrote: Here is the latest Photo of my tank after 2months time.... please check and compair with previous photo !!! 哇 ~ 不如轉養魚啦 ! 如果唔係 ~ 都幾惡攪 ~~~~~~~ | |
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Posted by: 貓貓樣 Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:01 qqleo wrote: nakata009 wrote: Here is the latest Photo of my tank after 2months time.... please check and compair with previous photo !!! 哇 ~ 不如轉養魚啦 ! 如果唔係 ~ 都幾惡攪 ~~~~~~~ 非常之咁好既提議喎;)，咁又會多一位人兄話，珊瑚非常之難搞，所以我唔養珊瑚喇，轉玩魚，但魚又成日起白點，仲難搞，結果，又會多一位人兄響二手版賣晒[$#21874]器材唔玩，貢眾網友又多個機會執平[$#22050]，正•••••••• | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:08 貓貓樣 wrote: qqleo wrote: nakata009 wrote: Here is the latest Photo of my tank after 2months time.... please check and compair with previous photo !!! 哇 ~ 不如轉養魚啦 ! 如果唔係 ~ 都幾惡攪 ~~~~~~~ 非常之咁好既提議喎;)，咁又會多一位人兄話，珊瑚非常之難搞，所以我唔養珊瑚喇，轉玩魚，但魚又成日起白點，仲難搞，結果，又會多一位人兄響二手版賣晒[$#21874]器材唔玩，貢眾網友又多個機會執平[$#22050]，正•••••••• 哇 ~~~ 弓刀講得出 ~ :) | |
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Posted by: 貓貓樣 Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:15 qqleo wrote: 貓貓樣 wrote: qqleo wrote: nakata009 wrote: Here is the latest Photo of my tank after 2months time.... please check and compair with previous photo !!! 哇 ~ 不如轉養魚啦 ! 如果唔係 ~ 都幾惡攪 ~~~~~~~ 非常之咁好既提議喎;)，咁又會多一位人兄話，珊瑚非常之難搞，所以我唔養珊瑚喇，轉玩魚，但魚又成日起白點，仲難搞，結果，又會多一位人兄響二手版賣晒[$#21874]器材唔玩，貢眾網友又多個機會執平[$#22050]，正•••••••• 哇 ~~~ 弓刀講得出 ~ :) 我知你想兜口兜面車我架喇，但響你車我之前聽我喵兩句得唔得？ 你與其響佢至失落既時候叫佢轉fot，不如教下佢典樣解救目前既困景好過，佢依家只不過係因為認知唔夠先會失敗，只是信錯人，唔關佢事，我地話佢知要典做，等佢自己去試多次，就算再失敗都只可以怨自己，而且佢有左初步既認識，貢就算佢要轉玩fot都易[$#21874]丫係咪•••••. 要打既千其唔好打我個靚頭•••••• | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:22 貓貓樣 wrote: 我知你想兜口兜面車我架喇，但響你車我之前聽我喵兩句得唔得？ 你與其響佢至失落既時候叫佢轉fot，不如教下佢典樣解救目前既困景好過，佢依家只不過係因為認知唔夠先會失敗，只是信錯人，唔關佢事，我地話佢知要典做，等佢自己去試多次，就算再失敗都只可以怨自己，而且佢有左初步既認識，貢就算佢要轉玩fot都易[$#21874]丫係咪•••••. 要打既千其唔好打我個靚頭•••••• 衰野 ~ 追我 POST 呀 ~~~ :}):}) 車 ~ 我做咩樹要車你 ? 收你姆多車錢好 ? 路程遠我又唔想車, 路程短你不如打的好過 ~ :) :) 之前都有好多魚友講過佢知, 但佢唔想 SIDE 左 $30,000 既血汗 $ 而絰持現狀 ! 改唔係無得改 ~ 又係要再俾 D $ 出黎攪囉 ~ 但凡講到 $ 呢就好頭痕 ~ 佢呢缸野最少要攪 3 樣野 (小弟之見) ~ 沙缸 / 缸中出水口位置 / 滴漏槽要加埋下滴漏梳位 (佢個缸太高啦所以要埋下面梳) xx(xx(xx( 如果唔係 D 水流都有限制 ~ 再睇下樓主想唔想攪先啦 ~~~~~~~ | |
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Posted by: 貓貓樣 Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:27 哈哈哈•••••小貓戰鬥力差，典敢追你post呀，得閒路過多口喵多幾句[$#21867]，你大人有大量，唔好怪小貓••••• 玩得呢家[$#22050]，我諗我地好多網友都泵唔少架喇，無乜邊個唔係，我個人相信，如果泵多少少錢就可以搞好個缸既話，好多人都願意貢做，佢兜[$#21655]頁大個圈，就算佢要轉fot，使錢都係難免，反而keep住養番rt，可能要使既錢仲少[$#21874]，但正如你老哥所講，最後都要睇苦主到式想典搞喇•••••• | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:32 貓貓樣 wrote: 哈哈哈•••••小貓戰鬥力差，典敢追你post呀，得閒路過多口喵多幾句[$#21867]，你大人有大量，唔好怪小貓••••• 玩得呢家[$#22050]，我諗我地好多網友都泵唔少架喇，無乜邊個唔係，我個人相信，如果泵多少少錢就可以搞好個缸既話，好多人都願意貢做，佢兜[$#21655]頁大個圈，就算佢要轉fot，使錢都係難免，反而keep住養番rt，可能要使既錢仲少[$#21874]，但正如你老哥所講，最後都要睇苦主到式想典搞喇•••••• 傻啦 ~ 講埋 d 弓既野 ! 係天口弓凍既日子要我打弓多字 ~ 想屎呀 :) 手到硬 ~~~ 如果要 keep rt 養 ~ 掉晒 d 死石入過一批果度都唔少野 ~ 泵兩泵不如開一個新缸算 ! 都係睇定先啦 ~~ :) | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:33 等用家自己決定啦, 佢似乎想維持現狀吸收經驗先咁樣, 雖然經驗話俾我地知, 個設計....................................B) | |
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Posted by: 貓貓樣 Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:35 qqleo wrote: 貓貓樣 wrote: 哈哈哈•••••小貓戰鬥力差，典敢追你post呀，得閒路過多口喵多幾句[$#21867]，你大人有大量，唔好怪小貓••••• 玩得呢家[$#22050]，我諗我地好多網友都泵唔少架喇，無乜邊個唔係，我個人相信，如果泵多少少錢就可以搞好個缸既話，好多人都願意貢做，佢兜[$#21655]頁大個圈，就算佢要轉fot，使錢都係難免，反而keep住養番rt，可能要使既錢仲少[$#21874]，但正如你老哥所講，最後都要睇苦主到式想典搞喇•••••• 傻啦 ~ 講埋 d 弓既野 ! 係天口弓凍既日子要我打弓多字 ~ 想屎呀 :) 手到硬 ~~~ 如果要 keep rt 養 ~ 掉晒 d 死石入過一批果度都唔少野 ~ 泵兩泵不如開一個新缸算 ! 都係睇定先啦 ~~ :) 得版主睇得起，打貢多字黎招呼小貓，實在係幾生修到••••• 買石係貴，但相比起買黃珊瑚骨同埋買活口既錢，實在係小毛見大毛，魚死就化灰，死就典都會響番度，小貓覺得化算[$#21874]•••••• | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:37 PP-HK wrote: 等用家自己決定啦, 佢似乎想維持現狀吸收經驗先咁樣, 雖然經驗話俾我地知, 個設計....................................B) PP 兄 ~ 仲可以吸到 d 咩先 :~):~):~):~) | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:39 貓貓樣 wrote: 得版主睇得起，打貢多字黎招呼小貓，實在係幾生修到••••• 買石係貴，但相比起買黃珊瑚骨同埋買活口既錢，實在係小毛見大毛，魚死就化灰，死就典都會響番度，小貓覺得化算[$#21874]•••••• 唔女夭下你刀唔得 ~~~ 邊有得弓計 ~ 如果係弓, 係每次換水之後都留番 d 水, 蒸漏化淡之後自用 ~~~~ :) | |
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Posted by: 貓貓樣 Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:41 qqleo wrote: 貓貓樣 wrote: 得版主睇得起，打貢多字黎招呼小貓，實在係幾生修到••••• 買石係貴，但相比起買黃珊瑚骨同埋買活口既錢，實在係小毛見大毛，魚死就化灰，死就典都會響番度，小貓覺得化算[$#21874]•••••• 唔女夭下你刀唔得 ~~~ 邊有得弓計 ~ 如果係弓, 係每次換水之後都留番 d 水, 蒸漏化淡之後自用 ~~~~ :) 哈哈哈•••••小貓計數係異於常人••••哈哈哈:D:P | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2006-01-09 16:44 貓貓樣 wrote: 哈哈•••••小貓計數係異於常人••••哈哈哈:D:P 好彩捉到個虐貓者, 如果唔係....................................哈哈哈 | |
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Posted by: PP-HK Posted on: 2006-01-09 17:08 qqleo wrote: PP-HK wrote: 等用家自己決定啦, 佢似乎想維持現狀吸收經驗先咁樣, 雖然經驗話俾我地知, 個設計....................................B) PP 兄 ~ 仲可以吸到 d 咩先 :~):~):~):~) 以前有套戲個名好貼切, 但係又太現實, 叫做'XX真面目'。xx( | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2006-01-10 14:21 你地好!!! 先講多謝!!! 我爸開始屈服$$$$的問題, 想用$$$$改做少RT 多D魚的缸.可行嗎? 我想有D魚游下!!!e家得一條青[$#40637]Ja. PO4 = 5.0 NO2 = 0 NO3 = 40 正常嗎? | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2006-01-10 19:12 nakata009 wrote: 你地好!!! 先講多謝!!! 我爸開始屈服$$$$的問題, 想用$$$$改做少RT 多D魚的缸.可行嗎? 我想有D魚游下!!!e家得一條青[$#40637]Ja. PO4 = 5.0 NO2 = 0 NO3 = 40 正常嗎? 如果係弓既話 ~ 唔好睇數字啦 ~ 拿拿林掉晒 d 石, 買過 d 真正既 "生物石" 養好缸水先至講啦 ! | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2006-01-10 19:13 PP-HK wrote: PP 兄 ~ 仲可以吸到 d 咩先 :~):~):~):~) 以前有套戲個名好貼切, 但係又太現實, 叫做'XX真面目'。xx( 呵 ~ 果 套 "歹戔 酉告 x x x" :) | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2006-01-11 13:54 生物石 is so important ? can i just remove ? | |
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Posted by: EdwardChu Posted on: 2006-01-11 17:06 That mean is.....FOT 0r RT ?? | |
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Posted by: qqleo Posted on: 2006-01-11 19:36 nakata009 wrote: 生物石 is so important ? can i just remove ? 一個做唔到生態過濾既生物石 ~ 即係你缸入面果 d 同一 d 可以做到生態過濾既生物石 ~ 弓你話 important 嗎 ? | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2006-01-12 01:29 But i have read that the 生物石 are not so imporant in FOT ? how come i dun understand ? isn't the filter tank below my Main tank are the main facility for the coral and fish to survie ? another question is some of the rock and sand in my tank have some grey powder on top do i need to clear it ? | |
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Posted by: 七仔 Posted on: 2006-01-12 13:46 nakata009 wrote: But i have read that the 生物石 are not so imporant in FOT ? how come i dun understand ? isn't the filter tank below my Main tank are the main facility for the coral and fish to survie ? another question is some of the rock and sand in my tank have some grey powder on top do i need to clear it ? 太詳細小弟唔識講，兄台亦可能不會明。 現在你要決定的是玩 RT 還是 FOT？ RT ： 活生物石非常重要(越多越好)，過瀘系統重要性不及活生物石 FOT ： 活生物石非常[color=red]不[/color]重要，師傅級都未必控制到。FOT 最好用已清潔處理好的珊瑚骨作做景及消化菌的居所。過瀘系統(sump)就非常重要。 沙石上的grey power係啡苔，係水質[$#31283]定前的必經階段，不用理會，水質[$#31283]定後會稍退但啡苔會永遠存在魚缸中，只是多與少問題。 (魚糧/糞便/魚屍==>NH3/NH4==>NO2==>NO3==>啡苔==>PO4==>紅苔) 用死石已是錯誤，還要是在魚店內長期浸在一缸死水中，非但不能養出消化菌，更會因水質惡化而存在壞水物質，比山邊亂石質素還差，放入家中魚缸，後果可知。 現在情況就是因為你"dun understand "，不要自責"how come"。過去已過去，應從各魚友的意見中決定去向，與其不知怎做，不如跟到足。 | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2006-01-25 00:48 我現比前明左好多! 衣家已有好轉,但魚像是浮沈不定和像是不能游到缸底? 是魚有問題還是缸水? Coral 衣家開得好好! 買左多D新[$#23453]石花!!! | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2006-02-04 04:02 I wish to remove some of the rock is this a good idea to remove the left hand side rocks ? becoz now i think the tank is bit too messy, want some change and add some new coral. the new coral seems living fine and perfectly now. but some fish die easily. but i will keep the status report. see how its going. the tank living enviroment is getting better !! | |
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Posted by: cmtsui Posted on: 2006-02-04 09:21 個人意見係....既然你覺得d 生物暫時叫穩定左既話...最佳既保養方法係唔好搞佢...因為你個缸日子尚短.....小小改變都有可能出事...... 唔好心急啦... :D | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2006-02-07 21:28 昨日動左大手術, 清左D石! 衣家好睇左幾多!!! 但唔知會點!!! | |
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Posted by: nakata009 Posted on: 2006-02-20 22:04 想問PO4高會點? 有什麼問題? | |
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