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Posted by: wolala
Posted on: 2002-07-04 10:39

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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-04 15:52

烏啦啦,咁多三圍數字有咩暗示呢? 唔通你又撈埋'屎兼麻'o既其貨董事? :)

Anyway, are you using this skimmer? I heard someone in US gives it a high rating. However, it isn't as slim as Prizm.
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Posted by: Clarencechk
Posted on: 2002-07-04 15:58

mud tung tung????
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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2002-07-04 16:57

wolala,

Thanks for sharing us the 三圍數字.:D

BTW, is the powerhead used in this skimmer simply a RIO 600 (with RVT)? Because I knew how to modify RIO powerhead with RVT function, but it's difficult to modify powerheads' impeller.:P:8)
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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-05 10:19

GD,

Can you tell me where can you buy a Rio powerhead, how much and how to enhanced it with RVT? :)
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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-05 12:26

GD,

Thanks! 好似明但又好似唔明:?):O) 條藍色管就係 small air line嗎?
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Posted by: Clarencechk
Posted on: 2002-07-05 14:03

May I know what is RVT? Function?
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-05 18:51

呢個係冇接到A-D既氣喉... 氣泡由D噴出.. A-D氣喉即係Gundaman既藍色管
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-05 21:13

有冇試過駁條幾呎甚至幾十呎既入氣喉呀.. 如果你冇.. 我買左一大圈.. 我可以剪俾你:D
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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2002-07-05 21:25

幾十呎 <--- 講笑咩, 成屋變左氣喉陣害到自己/家人就無謂啦...:D
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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-08 10:26

GD,

I tried modifying my Otto powerhead into RVT last weekend. I found that fine bubbles could really be generated even without the return tube. However, the power will be much reduced after I added the return tube. Is this what you expect and suggest? My Otto PH works at 2000L/h, do you think it's too strong? Or should I get a less powerful PH?
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-08 10:32

gd98.. 係呀.. 因為skimmer泵係打氣唔係打大水流.. 正常..
不過你如果真係有支feedback.. 泡理論上係會幼好多..
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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-08 11:07

icz, understand! Let me try again!
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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-08 12:18

GD, just want to know how can you measure the size of bubbles up to 0.1mm? :D
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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-08 12:25

GD,

One more Q - will there be any leakage of air bubbles through the slits of the PH or air tubes?
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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2002-07-08 12:26

hehe...just place a ruler on the glass of the tank:D...less than 0.7mm...I think...not 0.1...hehe
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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2002-07-08 12:31

gordon,

You've to make sure there is no any leakage of bubbles in any parts. Otherwise, its efficiency will be decreased, I think. (I've no experience in bubbles leakage) xx(
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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-08 12:35

GD,

Prompt reponse!! So where can I get the parts (other than the Rio pump) for DIY the RVT PH? Do I need a drill? Many thanks! :)
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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2002-07-08 12:44

It's really very easy to modify - use your imagination can solve all your problems.xx(

Indeed, the things you will need are 2 air-values(綠色膠果D) and 2m airline. 我就用模型鑽咀仔drill 2個細孔to fit the air values...用乜drill都得ga la...

As I said b4 - no secret at all.:D
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-08 14:01

我仲懶.. 我就燒紅支十字鈚篤個洞就算.. 鑽都慳番..
但記住係篤細一d.. 之後就用交剪刮大佢.. 可以刮到岩岩好實到連膠水就唔洗.:})
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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-08 14:34

懶-o岩我! 用白膠漿得唔得?
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-08 15:28

穩振d.. 魔術鋼膠囉...
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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-08 15:55

咩牌子? 五金鋪或者實惠有冇?
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-08 16:10

一定有.. 幾草野... 一支支幾吋長用圓筒透明膠樽入住.. 好似吹波膠咁... 你唔好俾d為食細佬見到就得.. :P
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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2002-07-08 17:21

I assemble it without using any glue nor 鋼膠...why you guys...???

More, I wonder if 鋼膠 is harmful to the the livestocks?:DThe smell of it is so...xx(

我的做法是:

1. 用鑽咀仔/cutter開兩個小孔, 跟住慢慢地把呢兩個孔"刮"大, 直至個air-vaule可以緊緊地放得入個O道, 咁就得喇...今晚再影幅相過你地睇...:P

完全唔使用glue架, 唔係我都唔會話cost you less than HK$10啦...;)
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Posted by: gordonwong98
Posted on: 2002-07-08 17:24

icz, 收到! 鋼膠都有為食細佬吼,唔通d膠有黑加崙子味咁正!:P
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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2002-07-08 22:58

RVT in detail 2:
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-08 23:08

根打.. 你個係放係水中用當然唔洗啦.. 我個方法係general咁講... 自己既做洗..
唔好話細佬會似為係吹波膠.. 你就咁開左佢放係抬.. 你老豆都可能會囉黎食添..:P
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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2002-07-08 23:26

我見你講到真既一樣嘛! 哈哈!!!:D:D:D

同埋gordon好似係講緊skimmer個RVT, 唔係你果隻ca reactor喉外面好似"呼"膏藥果D xx( joints喎.:D:P:P...clap...:D
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Posted by: Clarencechk
Posted on: 2002-07-08 23:39

Hi,

May I know what is RVT go?

Thanks
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-09 00:00

soli..Clarence唔記得覆你添.. 其實RVT即係個泵既吸水口引條氣喉出水面拉d氣入去.. RVT如果加多一條氣喉係個出水口 入番 入水口.. 泡就會更幼細..
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-09 00:37

要圖紙就用email問我啦
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-09 00:46

要就用email問我啦
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Posted by: wolala
Posted on: 2002-07-09 06:09

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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-09 08:58

原理好好喎.. 個reaction chamber咁大.. 應該好過prizm添..
但會唔會大辦法令佢係個chamber內係亂流d呢?
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-09 11:55

wolala wrote:
大致上比例間格都fit 到濡:

入水位A同出水位B最低位水平高度要一樣，出水位B喉 size最好大過A
40~ 60%。板格C係箭咀位有一防overflow用3-4mm小洞。Soli冇Corel
draw, 用住Photoshop改先。



唔明個 "c" 既 overflow 原理! 如果真係滿水, 咁d水點走啦? 最後係咪由隻collect cup 流"寫"哂出黎?
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-09 12:26

張圖update左啦, 返去之前果頁睇啦, 比例改左做1:2.
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-13 21:28

我都學亞Gundaman 整左個RVT power head:D:D:D
不過仲未造個impeller, 但係效果都唔錯, D泡沬比木氣出果D仲細:):D
下個星期開始造個CPR bakpak II 既 body:^)

???????好似攪錯左D野, RTV 既 power 要幾大? 即係幾多litre per hour?
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Posted by: wolala
Posted on: 2002-07-13 21:56

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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-13 22:25

wolala wrote:
600l/hr



咁如果太大有乜問題? 我果個成2000 l/hr, 不過好彩有個野可以關細個入水量, 好險;)
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-14 02:21

努力呀白能熊:})
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-14 11:10

咁將哩個用黎推部水冷law, 好! 再買個新既... 亞Gundaman, 你果個乜牌子呀? 幾錢? 邊度買? 唔該先:)
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-14 11:18

白熊.. 係呀.. 個泵頭水流量唔係有大用大架..會冇反效果..
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Posted by: Gundaman
Posted on: 2002-07-14 11:33

白熊,

Use RIO600 instead of my Sicce NOVA....My powerhead was for experimental only...RIO600 should be the more appropriate/suitable model for the CPR bakpak II...The modifcation is the same, but you better pay more attention to the parts that described in the following link:

http://saltaquarium.about.com/library/weekly/aa091099.htm

BTW, the price for RIO600 is below $130. (I don't remember the exact price.)

Hope this help.;)
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-14 14:16

剛剛去完魚街, 本來都想買個NOVA 800 litre/hrs 既試下, 太摡$80~85. 不過打開睇完來好細個, lum lum 下都係買個30~40蚊既國產貨玩下先.
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-14 14:41

白熊.. 唔記得同你講.. 買個好小小.. 一來冇咁食電.. 二來有parts配.. 唔來冇咁熱.. 注意注意;)
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-16 13:06

首歌係. 小白龍下話
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-16 16:41

收到, 張圖改左啦.
今日已經買左個600 l/h 既 雞野powerhead試下, 仲叫左人訂造 亞雅力 膠片.
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-18 16:08

:D:D:D 個powerhead攪掂, 人仔25蚊...:D 仲好靜添:)
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-18 18:13

嘩:O)... 打風咩∼∼∼∼∼∼∼？？？？？
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-19 10:54

iczfirz wrote:
嘩:O)... 打風咩∼∼∼∼∼∼∼？？？？？



其實無乜力渣, 不過快門太慢, 個缸又細, 錯覺黎o者:)
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Posted by: yinchai
Posted on: 2002-07-19 11:25

白熊 wrote:
iczfirz wrote:
嘩:O)... 打風咩∼∼∼∼∼∼∼？？？？？



其實無乜力渣, 不過快門太慢, 個缸又細, 錯覺黎o者:)


D7i ..... 真利害...hehe...haha:P:D:P:D:P:D
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-19 12:10

賢仔, 我個 logo 正嘛?:D 用D7i 同你影相呀:)
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-27 20:01

初步完成:)
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Posted by: Newb
Posted on: 2002-07-28 02:57

diy ar?
你地好堅ar!
要用咩工具ga?
有工場ga?
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-28 09:44

好簡單, 我之前已經post左張尺寸圖上黎, 你照睇尺寸, 再去叫人幫你"介"幾塊"亞佳力"膠片, 用"哥羅方" chi 實佢.
再睇下之前D POST, 造個 RVT powerhead.
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-28 13:49

白熊...你部係咩印相機...個款咁古怪既?
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-28 17:20

iczfirz wrote:
白熊...你部係咩印相機...個款咁古怪既?



熱昇華打印機, 台灣出架, 好平$2080, 4R相紙同貼紙都係約$3/張.
好處仲有可以直插CF, SM 連micro driver 都得, 唔駛一定經電腦.

http://www.hi-ti.com/Taiwan/consumer.asp?id=4
http://www.digital.idv.tw/Printer-Test/HiTi/Printer630PS/intro/HiTi-630PS-intro.htm
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Posted by: Clarencechk
Posted on: 2002-07-28 22:12

各diy魚友:

有冇人試過用上文提反的DIY RVT pump 去推Berlin Turbo呢?
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Posted by: swu
Posted on: 2002-07-28 22:41

Where u buy that printer? I have a interest on it.
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-28 22:49

swu wrote:
Where u buy that printer? I have a interest on it.



我o向旺角"永明影音中心"買, 地址: 西洋菜街68號地下
高登都有, 近中間有部"等離子"做demo個間
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Posted by: Newb
Posted on: 2002-07-29 14:07

哈哈!
可能我太蠢la.....xx(
睇完各位大佬d心得,都唔係好明咁!
靜係知到要買個powerhead同用亞佳力膠片.....
有冇邊位大佬,可以幫幫手整理下d資料le:D
Thank You!
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-29 17:52

驚好心做壞事, 比人告就無謂, -delete-
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Posted by: Clarencechk
Posted on: 2002-07-29 19:54

HI HI,

Waiting for your good new.

Thanks
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-29 20:34

白熊... 但你d紙同wax roller會唔會遲d冇得買架
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-29 20:40

iczfirz wrote:
白熊... 但你d紙同wax roller會唔會遲d冇得買架



你地個個有數碼相機既都買返部, 咁佢有錢搵未唔駛驚囉:D
紙同wax roller 係配套買既, 一盒過.
有時驚都無法, 我想無咁快玩完掛!!!
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-29 21:46

所以我用sony... :D:D
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-07-29 22:22

係未sv55, 兩仟幾仲無display, sony D 相紙幾錢? 我用緊D 4R相紙$160/50套
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Posted by: Newb
Posted on: 2002-07-30 00:43

thank you ar
i wait you la 白熊 !
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Posted by: iczfirz
Posted on: 2002-07-30 08:54

我就9X / 25張.. 但唔怕冇紙買:D:D
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Posted by: Clarencechk
Posted on: 2002-08-03 01:41

白熊:

Does any updated of your DIY skimmer?
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-08-03 09:29

第一次用4mm 板, 因計錯數, 尺寸錯左, 報廢:(
第二次用6mm 板, 點知大厚, 差小小位都唔得, 仲因為塊板有d變形, 都係xx(
第三次還原用4mm 板, 介緊, 再接再厲:)(工廠好忙, 忙到就死, 仲未有時間介板)
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-08-10 14:10

he he, ha ha.
做左兩個夜晚
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Posted by: nebula
Posted on: 2002-08-10 22:23

白熊
可能已經太遲，但依然想介紹給你（從其它forum見到的）。
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-03/fm/index.htm
希望有用啦！
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-08-11 10:48

唔遲唔遲:) 我DIY 係要黎學下野同玩下啫, 想知唔同既skimmer有乜唔同. bakpak 之後便是維修個 AB, 下個目標就係KK果個CPR-CY192, 比香港個缸仔用:). 再遲D又試下用個大power既powerhead直推既大型skimmer, 因為夢想整返個200噸既魚缸.....(5mx2mx2m 走火入魔?)
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Posted by: Clarencechk
Posted on: 2002-08-30 14:00

When will you post the result see see ?
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-08-31 10:25

初步完成, 不過試唔到, 因為個bakpak原來高過個地柜, 放唔入:(, 依家造緊個新沙缸, 遲d至試到結果:)
(趕時間, 手震有d矇, 睇注先)　
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-08-31 17:39

用個缸仔試, wolala d 泡係細就好細, 不過真係好少喎?
遲d試下用個900 lit/hrs 既試下先
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-09-01 21:07

今朝試過個900 lit/hrs 既 powerhead, 效果好好多, 因為趕注返歸, 無影到相, 下個星期至補返:)
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Posted by: wolala
Posted on: 2002-09-12 23:51

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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-09-26 17:58

wolala wrote:
小白熊，見到有幾個問題：

1)Collection cup太高身；
2)Collection cup中間之管太幼；
3)你個國產600l/hr pump太削，冇乜力水，應該要打到
近collection cup位置D水奶白色先得。



1. 已改短:D
2. 無法, 唔改囉:)
3.已改900 litre/hrs
4. o向個body由底部cut去2.5吋, 因新沙缸改矮左, 同要另個powerhead剛剛o向水面.
回覆： CPR bakpak II reef ready dimensions Part I Copy to clipboard
Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-09-26 17:59

close up
回覆： CPR bakpak II reef ready dimensions Part I Copy to clipboard
Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-09-26 18:00

close up + 閃光燈
wolala, 收唔收貨:D
回覆： CPR bakpak II reef ready dimensions Part I Copy to clipboard
Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-09-28 17:10

兩部skimmer都總算完成, 做返份畢業論文先:)
最初覺得最難攪係造個powerhead既impeller, 成日想用車床車個正d既, 不過真係好難, 所以維有只係用cutter將原本既普通impeller cut D 牙出黎就算:)
跟注要學介膠板, 我覺得用4mm最好, 太厚既塊膠板如有變形就好難救, 太簿既話又好難chi, 我部介床速度慢左D, 介出黎會有d崩.
部CY-192比較易攪D, 因為已有chi 膠板既經驗, 問清楚結構尺寸同原理之後, 再睇下自己實際既要求, 改到fit o西用緊果個魚缸架, 一take過OK攪掂o西:D 哩隻野最難係買個70~80mm圓筒, 原本要買成支要兩佰幾, 好彩比我搵到件"碎料", 14寸長都要$60.
bakpak就真係成匹布咁長, 主要因為無經驗, 要第三個先成功, 仲係要改來改去至用得. 個主體周圍漏水, 要補好多次. 最難係出入水既膠喉, 因唔係"亞佳力", 兩仲塑膠chi唔埋, 所以成個skimmer要放入沙缸裡面. 條入水喉因比較長, 所以個powerhead要放到接近水面至打到氣, 深多一寸都唔出到氣.
我而家造緊第四個, 係度身訂造比自己個沙缸用, 出入出喉都會改用埋亞佳力膠喉, 咁就唔怕漏水啦:D
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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2002-10-02 09:34

wolala, 你有"老細", 點做僧呀? :D
你收購咁多skimmer 同 "菇"(好彩唔係姑:)), 咁點算貧喎!:D:D:D
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