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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-08-03 01:15

未知秘藥係乜的人,可以pm我問藥方及用法(超簡化版),完整版可看[url=http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/topic_show.cgi?id=12184&h=1&bpg=1&age=0]某雜誌[/url]的第三期。
秘藥的試藥魚︰
http://www.aquarium.org.hk/cgi-bin/ch/topic_show.cgi?id=12534&h=1&bpg=1&age=0

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Posted by: seawaterfish
Posted on: 2004-08-03 21:57

thank you very much for the 秘藥.

My "粉吊" is infected by "white spot". The bath of 秘藥 started 3 days ago. It looks good. hope she will recover soon.

However, the "mixed medicine" have a big disadvantage:

-fish is in a 清缸 environment!!!, therefore, we are advised to have daily water change.

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-08-03 23:57

要把白點趕盡殺絕又唔想魚的傷口受細菌感染,無計啦。咪當做下運動:P

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Posted by: 改進中的小丑魚
Posted on: 2004-08-04 00:41

俊俊,聽人講話侏儒仙比太后仲唔受得藥wor,有冇興趣試下。

至於你隻藥暫時未試,因為近排未加魚,不過黎緊好快會加,到時再報告。

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-08-04 01:03

改進中的小丑魚 wrote:
俊俊,聽人講話侏儒仙比太后仲唔受得藥wor,有冇興趣試下。

至於你隻藥暫時未試,因為近排未加魚,不過黎緊好快會加,到時再報告。




侏儒仙,印象中好似唔靚喎。
我下次試半月仙,睇下係咪得半個月:P

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Posted by: Dickson
Posted on: 2004-08-04 10:34

呢排都無加魚,因要等住養小丑。所以都未試新葯,我等緊你的小丑,我諗我都會浸小丑多]。:D:D

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Posted by: seawaterfish
Posted on: 2004-08-05 22:57

俊兄:

I would like to have your comment regrding the 100% water change (learn from the magazine). Do you think it is a must to have 100% water change?
What is the purpose of performing 100% water change.
Can it be revised to be 80-90% water change?

Why i saying that, it is because I really don't to relocating fish between tanks everyday cos I am afriad the daily relocation would scare the fish too much.

Please kindly give your comment

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Posted by: seawaterfish
Posted on: 2004-08-05 23:00

俊兄:

I would like to have your comment regrding the 100% water change (learn from the magazine). Do you think it is a must to have 100% water change?
What is the purpose of performing 100% water change.
Can it be revised to be 80-90% water change?

Why i saying that, it is because I really don't to relocating fish between tanks everyday cos I am afriad the daily relocation would scare the fish too much.

Please kindly give your comment .]

Lastly, My 粉吊 is having her fifth day 秘藥treatment, and all of the sympton of ICH has been cleared. However, I would take another week to see her feedbcak before it is back to my 30"main tank

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-08-06 01:08

因為浸藥一日後,缸底會有d黏黏的東西出現,我會捉魚出來刷下個缸,而且d水一日後會瀆,留翻d水都唔係咁好。捉魚唔怕的,我條粉吊、仙及碟日日捉都無事,無咁易嚇死的。

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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2004-09-15 23:43

死火, 11條魚毛入秘藥缸, 而家死淨5條:~)
因無用prime, 因睇漏資料買漏左, 哩度又買唔到:(, 又無用新水, 結果一晚香5條:O), 山埃作怪??? nh3/4又無喎, check 過OK喎!
今日放工再香條天使, 尾部內出血:O), 乜解究哩???
兩條巴士鈳賜E大缸捉既, 我估無事, 放入長缸, 好似又掂喎:)
淨返二mo一天使, 今朝見佢地眼矇兼微凸, 而家又好似好返DD? 只係有一條mo仔開口.....唉~

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-09-16 00:15

白熊 wrote:
死火, 11條魚毛入秘藥缸, 而家死淨5條:~)
因無用prime, 因睇漏資料買漏左, 哩度又買唔到:(, 又無用新水, 結果一晚香5條:O), 山埃作怪??? nh3/4又無喎, check 過OK喎!
今日放工再香條天使, 尾部內出血:O), 乜解究哩???
兩條巴士鈳賜E大缸捉既, 我估無事, 放入長缸, 好似又掂喎:)
淨返二mo一天使, 今朝見佢地眼矇兼微凸, 而家又好似好返DD? 只係有一條mo仔開口.....唉~




叫peter車幾枝prime比你用啦。

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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2004-09-17 09:35

nh3/4都無喎, 仲要prime黎做乜???
"尋"晚返歸, 又香條mo仔:~):(:~):(, 死淨果條仲爛鰭添, 死就死, 反正向QT都係等死, 放入長缸......
好彩今朝仲"健在", 仲走左入巨形奶咀既懷抱:)
俊俊, 星期日出黎下午茶A餐加凍飲:O)...我既:})....要問清楚邊度出問題......:D:D:D

唔好提peter啦, 半年前叫佢有貨通知我.....結果............|)

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Posted by: 康仔
Posted on: 2004-09-17 10:40

nh3/4測唔倒唔代表無架,我都試過咁樣死魚:( 學俊兄話齋,prime係必須落架:I

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-09-17 10:56

白熊 wrote:
nh3/4都無喎, 仲要prime黎做乜???
"尋"晚返歸, 又香條mo仔:~):(:~):(, 死淨果條仲爛鰭添, 死就死, 反正向QT都係等死, 放入長缸......
好彩今朝仲"健在", 仲走左入巨形奶咀既懷抱:)
俊俊, 星期日出黎下午茶A餐加凍飲:O)...我既:})....要問清楚邊度出問題......:D:D:D

唔好提peter啦, 半年前叫佢有貨通知我.....結果............|)




康仔解釋左lu,prime真係好有用的。
星期日時間、地點?6:15要回聖堂做野,唔好太晏。

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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2004-09-20 20:41

嘿! 嘿! 買左Prime 啦, 好彩俊俊帶路, 原來唔係間間有得賣, "蕉"記聯盟店買左:D, 5ml Prime for 200L 水, 我試過, 一個蓋=5ml=110滴, "當"佢100滴齊頭計數, 咁一滴 for 2L水, 我買左個10L缸仔, 5滴咋....我仲買左最大果支添B).
D藥丸點搞好哩? 一款每次半粒, 另一款每次4分之一粒, 一放用水"開"左佢之後先用:)
再買左幾條魚毛, 睇下駛唔駛打返當齋:P

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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2004-09-21 10:15

我估"蕉"記D魚毛仔健康D, 今日一早望下個QT, 幾條mo 仔好活潑, 仲會打下交添:), 落乾糧.....好似開哂口添8D

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-09-21 10:53

prime我通常都落多兩三倍,反正唔會死魚。

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Posted by: tai8888
Posted on: 2004-10-22 00:14

Hi,

秘藥用後效果如何????

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-10-22 01:24

秘藥用後...我有好多魚等緊落缸,d魚要練埋白點抗體先落缸。

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Posted by: orguess
Posted on: 2004-10-28 13:47

己經好耐無上0黎,想問一問俊兄。

我有條藍紋己經養鬫陪荋X月,返0黎無幾耐開始矇眼,用美樂仙同打大氣醫好後個身開始有白印,到最近係白印中有紅點。試個捉出0黎浸唔同葯都唔得,誤打誤撞買0左秘藥其中一種藥浸魖滮擗S唔得。終於前日有幸拜讀大作,買覾字藥,但行足成條魚街買唔到另外個隻。昨晚又e粗粗開返個醫生缸試鴷峎樂仙替買唔到個隻藥。浸髐@個鐘,條魚長時間係水面吸氣,於是暫時放返入大缸。想問問可以用咩替我買唔到個隻藥?

(我要今晚返到屋企先可以post將相。)

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-10-28 20:24

你post哂d成份出來,之後無戲唱囉。
未試過用其他成份,混藥最怕的是藥性相衝,變成毒藥。

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Posted by: orguess
Posted on: 2004-10-28 23:47

唔好意思!心急之過。

post張相,睇睇有無得救,唔該!

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Posted by: orguess
Posted on: 2004-10-29 08:39

昨晚又再試過,將T字藥份量減半,用美樂仙同秘藥成份中藥性較低合用,條魚捱過第一晚 :-) 唔知用四環素代替美樂仙又得唔得呢?

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-10-30 02:21

條魚咁病,好難搞。既然咁病,藥量為何要減半?減半可能藥力弱左救唔翻。

其實美藥仙係乜?我未用過。或者加埋落秘藥到,就死的都救得翻生。

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Posted by: orguess
Posted on: 2004-10-31 14:04

因為條魚係第一晚長時間係水面吸氣,所以剩係將T字藥份量減半,其他跟說明書。

唔係幫人賣廣告,枝美樂仙係美國0野,話係用茶樹精華提煉。之前D曚眼都係用佢攪掂。而家第三日,D血點已經退0左唔少,希望在魚間!

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-10-31 21:27

又係同一個牌子喎。

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Posted by: orguess
Posted on: 2004-11-17 19:19

是時侯update一下我的個案。由於一直買唔到秘葯其中一種成份(藥性最強的那一隻),於是用melafix代替進行治療。我的setting如下:
1. ~八公升魚缸一個
2. 暖管一支(保持溫度為廿六度)
3. 所有藥依說明書份量 + prime 但沒有落pH buffer*
4. 每日清洗魚缸同重新落藥
5. 用藥時間為16日

(* 曾經於其中兩日落pH buffer, 但藍紋同另一條藍咀會出現痾血同突眼現象,所以其他時間沒有落pH buffer)

在用藥期間有如下的發現:
1. melafix的藥性在混合後不會成為毒藥,對魚無害。但是否減低原有的療效則為未知之數;
2. melafix可能有穩定pH的作用,不用pH buffer 時魚正常,但落了反而不成。但亦有可能兩者化學作用令到水質變為有害,同穩定pH無關;
2. 藍紋在用藥後三日,身上的紅點己沒有。但白印卻退得十分慢,在第九日開始加入四環素,其後情況一直好轉;
3. 由於另一條所養的藍咀有收口、收背同腮蓋變薄等病症,所以用同樣成份的藥在另一個缸進行治療。發現藍咀對葯的輕重十分敏感,多一兩滴葯水會令其十分不適。初時以為pH問題加入pH buffer, 但想不到會出現痾血同突眼現象。所以只用葯四日便中止療程,但病程己有明顯改善,現在等突眼自行好轉;

我post這個案並不表示己經發現新version 的秘葯,因為俊兄對魚種的測試範圍同嚴緊程度是我所不及,這只是我用來呃post的一個借口。

(p.s. 我到而家都未買到個隻葯,係唔係有人掃哂D貨呀?)

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Posted by: 蕃薯
Posted on: 2004-12-19 23:43

俊兄:第三期秘藥可吾可以醫比魚打傷口,因無黃粉:)

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2004-12-20 00:54

蕃薯 wrote:
俊兄:第三期秘藥可吾可以醫比魚打傷口,因無黃粉:)




傷口可以有得佢自已好,秘藥應可以防止細菌感染。

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Posted by: R仔
Posted on: 2005-01-08 22:50

俊兄:
我想問浸秘藥所用的水是新開or用舊缸的,因yesterday我把新魚(火焰仙)用舊缸的水浸,今晚己升天,另外是否一定要everyday change 100%水和是否一定要落prime,Q缸中只用氣泵,暖管. thanks

剛剛看到舊post------"白熊 wrote:因無用prime"

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Posted by: 白熊
Posted on: 2005-01-09 08:53

俊俊好忙, 本20D說明書好厚:P
你提過我既名, 咁我又多玩下搶答啦:D
1. 用秘藥要日日換100%水, 仲要用新水, 因舊水可能好多箘.
2. Prime 要黎化走 nh3, 小量NO2, NO3, 買樽大既啦, 第二時個主缸都得, 有珊瑚都唔怕, 照用得.
3. 魚要吸氧氣架, 緊係要氣泵啦; 而家咁既溫度, 我都想袋幾支鄖降:O):D

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Posted by: R仔
Posted on: 2005-01-09 13:36

白熊兄 :

我意思是Q缸現在只用氣泵,暖管是否足夠.但多謝你回覆.不過everday change 100%water,D 魚可會適應?
想問多句how to use 表情符號?thanks

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Posted by: 岩礁園丁
Posted on: 2005-01-09 14:43

在回覆文章時, 按左邊的高級編輯器, 就會見到一列表情符號.

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Posted by: 蕃薯
Posted on: 2005-01-20 20:31

俊兄:
想問問隻秘藥,可吾可以醫(生石),
因為我條耳班有幾粒石
如可以份量??
如吾得有咩藥醫
                                                                                      
                                                           

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2005-01-20 21:48

蕃薯 wrote:
俊兄:
想問問隻秘藥,可吾可以醫(生石),
因為我條耳班有幾粒石
如可以份量??
如吾得有咩藥醫
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無得醫,要等佢自已好。

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Posted by: R仔
Posted on: 2005-01-21 21:26

俊兄
想問太后可否受秘藥?
thanks.

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2005-01-21 23:18

R仔 wrote:
俊兄
想問太后可否受秘藥?
thanks.




你梗係無睇清楚我d post 啦,罰你由頭睇一次。

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Posted by: R仔
Posted on: 2005-01-21 23:27

改進中的小丑魚wrote:
聽人講話侏儒仙比太后仲唔受得藥?
.
sorry lor,因剛剛買左條太后所以急於想知.

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Posted by: 改進中的小丑魚
Posted on: 2005-01-21 23:48

R仔 wrote:
改進中的小丑魚wrote:
聽人講話侏儒仙比太后仲唔受得藥?
.
sorry lor,因剛剛買左條太后所以急於想知.




咁就快d浸下佢啦!;)

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2005-01-23 21:28

R仔 wrote:
改進中的小丑魚wrote:
聽人講話侏儒仙比太后仲唔受得藥?
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sorry lor,因剛剛買左條太后所以急於想知.




無病唔駛用藥,輕病用秘藥,重病用加強版秘藥。

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Posted by: R仔
Posted on: 2005-01-24 20:01

[color=black]幻之終極真姚俊wrote:
無病唔駛用藥,輕病用秘藥,重病用加強版秘藥。[/color]

唔係買回來之後浸幾日好D?:)

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2005-01-25 00:09

R仔 wrote:
[color=black]幻之終極真姚俊wrote:
無病唔駛用藥,輕病用秘藥,重病用加強版秘藥。[/color]

唔係買回來之後浸幾日好D?:)




漏左講,幾乎買回來的魚實有輕病,唔好彩就會有重病:D

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2005-02-10 21:18

呢幾日見半月仙個肚的紅印+凸鱗情況嚴重左,又收左口,即刻捉條魚浸秘藥加強版,再加搽藥高。過左一日,未死得,條魚反應好翻d,而且又啄缸,唔錯,唔錯。

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Posted by: Mark Mark
Posted on: 2005-02-16 11:44

Hello 幻之終極真姚俊
可否PM自制秘藥的
制法,用量和可否在主缸用,
因為我成個缸已有白[$#28857].

ThankYou !!
Mark

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Posted by: chingsk
Posted on: 2005-04-27 02:48

俊兄!我基本上跟足第六期的做法去浸過我的魚,全部都係仙,但每次浸唔過三日就全部仙遊晒!唔知點解?已死的包括3.5"馬安、4"圈帝、2"籃面、3"黃吊、2"籃紋!我唯一無做足的就是我並非用新開水,而是從大缸抽水來換,因大缸o的魚係無病,但唔知點解會係咁點浸都死?

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2005-04-28 00:44

chingsk wrote:
俊兄!我基本上跟足第六期的做法去浸過我的魚,全部都係仙,但每次浸唔過三日就全部仙遊晒!唔知點解?已死的包括3.5"馬安、4"圈帝、2"籃面、3"黃吊、2"籃紋!我唯一無做足的就是我並非用新開水,而是從大缸抽水來換,因大缸o的魚係無病,但唔知點解會係咁點浸都死?




如果真係全部跟足,應該無事。我近排都浸完一條其輪仙,及浸緊一條火焰仙,用的水是主缸水(又試下得唔得),浸完及浸緊的都無事....所以呢,我都唔知乜解究了,唯有轉其他方法加魚啦。

大缸的水是否很好?我遇過一個人,佢用大缸水裝條魚比我,唔夠一個鐘的旅程,條魚己反左,懷疑係他的缸內污染物過多,一唔打氣或無左過濾,水變差得好快,但肉眼睇就水好清。唔知會唔會係呢個原因?

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Posted by: lpowerk
Posted on: 2005-05-03 00:45

請問浸秘藥期間可否餵食??

剛剛買了藍圈...
回家後條魚又爆身又爛尾..
依家浸緊秘藥
希望救到啦..

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Posted by: 幻之無極兇眼男
Posted on: 2005-05-03 21:29

lpowerk wrote:
請問浸秘藥期間可否餵食??

剛剛買了藍圈...
回家後條魚又爆身又爛尾..
依家浸緊秘藥
希望救到啦..




條魚又爆身又爛尾,九成都唔開口囉。
要餵食無問題,在要換水前一個鐘餵。餵完等一個鐘就換水。

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Posted by: lpowerk
Posted on: 2005-05-03 22:47

幻之終極真姚俊 wrote:
lpowerk wrote:
請問浸秘藥期間可否餵食??

剛剛買了藍圈...
回家後條魚又爆身又爛尾..
依家浸緊秘藥
希望救到啦..




條魚又爆身又爛尾,九成都唔開口囉。
要餵食無問題,在要換水前一個鐘餵。餵完等一個鐘就換水。




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